Charlie Sheen

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Addiction aside -- hanging with porn stars, paying high-priced call girls for sex (and bragging about it), wanting to turn your home into a "Porn House", asking one of those Porn Star to provide child care for your children -- THOSE are the acts I have no sympathy for. He has four small children who should be the center of his universe, yet the only person at the center of Charlie's universe is Charlie. The ones I feel sorry for are those children who will scarred for life due their father's actions
 
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His show on the verge of cancellation? His parents trying to take control of his assets? In an exclusive exchange with E! News, Charlie Sheen is clearing up all the rumors himself.

Here's what he had to say about his troubles, the false stories and his undying love for his fans.

Asked if his father, Martin, is really seeking a conservatorship as claimed by Radar Online and whether Two and a Half Men would be halted, the rehabbing star was to the point.

"All crap," he told us via text.

"Believe nothing. I will never speak about any of this as long as I'm alive. You're all gonna have to keep towing the same redundant line, guessing wrong."

He's obviously following the news, because Sheen suggested the focus on his situation was overblown.

"BTW, two wars are in an endless state of sorrow. Egypt about burned to the ground, and all you people care about is my bullsh-t....?"

Sheen called it "pathetic" that the media cared about his personal life and how he chooses to spend it.

"Shame shame shame," he said.

We wished the troubled actor well and told him people really do just want to see him get healthy and happy and return to work.

"Absolutely I see that," he said. "For that I am grateful."

There you have it. Straight from the Sheen himself.

Within minutes of our exchange, his rep, Stan Rosenfield, issued a much more sedate statement on behalf of the star. You can compare and contrast:

"I have a lot of work to do to be able to return the support I have received from so many people. I want to say thank you to my fellow castmembers, the crew of Two and a Half Men and everyone at CBS and Warner Bros., especially [CBS CEO] Les Moonves and [Warner Bros. TV President] Bruce Rosenblum for their concern and support," the statement says.

"And to my fans, your good wishes have touched me very much. Like Errol Flynn, who had to put down his sword on occasion, I just want to say thank you."

Let's hope he's able to pick up the sword again soon, and not hurt anyone with it—including himself.
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#544
I wonder if he means..."hard drinking, hard core alcoholic Errol Flynn had to take a break from making movies to dry out and sober up, though he died at 50 largely owing to his partying ways...i need to sober up or end up like he did"...

or

"Swashbucking hero Errol Flynn had to take a break from swordplay in his movies, and I am just taking a break because I am as talented and amazing as Errol Flynn"

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Four months after turning 50, Flynn's years of hard living caught up with him and he died of a heart attack on October 14, 1959. He had flown to Vancouver, British Columbia in order to sell his yacht. When he fell ill he was taken to a friend's apartment. In typical Flynn fashion a party ensued with Flynn charming guests with stories and impressions. He complained of pains in his back and legs and went to the bedroom to lie down. He died there but he had one more public appearance to make. According to the Vancouver Sun (12/16/2006), "When Errol Flynn came to town in 1959 for a week-long binge that ended with him dying in a West End apartment, his local friends propped him up at the Hotel Georgia lounge so that everyone would see him."

According to the coroner's report, his body was so bloated by illness and ravaged by substance abuse that it looked as if it belonged to a much older man.
Flynn's body was flown back to to America and buried in Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, California. Interred with him are 6 bottles of whisky, purchased for him as a parting gift from his drinking cronies. A sadly fitting memorial perhaps.


http://hubpages.com/hub/Errol-Flynn--A-Hollywood-Death

drugs and alcohol took him from this...

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to this.....

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#545
iluvmybags said:
Addiction aside -- hanging with porn stars, paying high-priced call girls for sex (and bragging about it), wanting to turn your home into a "Porn House", asking one of those Porn Star to provide child care for your children -- THOSE are the acts I have no sympathy for. He has four small children who should be the center of his universe, yet the only person at the center of Charlie's universe is Charlie. The ones I feel sorry for are those children who will scarred for life due their father's actions
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yes his children are suffering the most. he obviously has a sex addiction as well. this guy is so sick and as I said before, his illness has completely taken over. he is not thinking clearly at all. his disease is thinking for him. addiction is a very selfish disease. it puts blinders on you. I don't know how else to put it.
 
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bagnshoofetish said:
yes his children are suffering the most. he obviously has a sex addiction as well. this guy is so sick and as I said before, his illness has completely taken over. he is not thinking clearly at all. his disease is thinking for him. addiction is a very selfish disease. it puts blinders on you. I don't know how else to put it.
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This. IMO, he cannot change the thinking by himself. And from what I have seen, an addict/alcoholic needs contact with others in the same boat to get better and stay better. Long-term sobriety with support from people who will not enable his destructive behavior can completely change how a recovering person thinks and acts. Again, IMHO, he cannot do this at home with experts coming to him. Maybe he's the exception, but I seriously doubt it. I've never seen it happen (achieve long-term sobriety by oneself without regular contact with other recovering people).
 
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boxermom said:
....he cannot do this at home with experts coming to him. Maybe he's the exception, but I seriously doubt it. I've never seen it happen (achieve long-term sobriety by oneself without regular contact with other recovering people).
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yeah no way can he do this at home. totally delusional. especially as far gone as he is. he needs to be in a lock-down facility. but unless he is willing to go on his own, it won't work no matter where he is. trust me, the whole recovery community is waiting with a huge net to catch him when he's ready to make the jump. people are just holding their breath.
 
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bagnshoofetish said:
his disease is in complete control right now. I shudder to think what his rock bottom is going to be because he hasn't really had it yet. his rock bottom might be death. I hope not. I don't wish death on anyone.
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I don't wish death on him, either, but I do stand by my comment that Sheen needs to change his mindset (a reckless one that has him believing he's "just having fun" when that fun can easily take his life). Please believe me when I say that I don't take what he's going through lightly; my father was an addict for a number of years (he's been off of drugs (though he still drinks) for just under 20 years now), and because of that, that's where my frustration comes through. My father's issues contributed greatly to the decline of my parents' marriage and the breaking up of our home.
 
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LADC_chick said:
I don't wish death on him, either, but I do stand by my comment that Sheen needs to change his mindset (a reckless one that has him believing he's "just having fun" when that fun can easily take his life). Please believe me when I say that I don't take what he's going through lightly; my father was an addict for a number of years (he's been off of drugs (though he still drinks) for about 20 years now), and because of that, that's where my frustration comes through. My father's issues contributed greatly to the decline of my parents' marriage and the breaking up of our home.
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I am so sorry you went through that. :hugs:
But that is one of the keys to recovery - changing the way one thinks. it takes a lot of work and a lot of time. when an addict/alcoholic goes into recovery, this is part of what the treatment addresses, the way the addicts/alcoholics brain thinks. they have to relearn so many things. I think I heard Dr. Drew put it best - a person is pretty much stunted emotionally at the time they started using/drinking. so someone who is Charlies age, if they started using at 13, that is pretty much where they stopped maturing emotionally. pretty much why he is acting like a child. people need to remember too, that not only is the addict sick, the whole family is sick. the family is addicted to the addicts problems, even if not willingly. thats why its so important for friends and loved ones to attend Al-Anon. helps people understand the disease and how not to enable and also how to help themselves - its the same 12 step program. the family needs help undoing and healing the damage caused by the addict.
 
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I wonder if any other information surrounding him is going to surface, it'll be interesting to see what other craziness he has been involved in.

I also wonder if he's pissed that the porn stars he had that bender with gave some interviews. The one girl, Kaycee Jordan is the lowest of low.
 
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bagnshoofetish said:
I am so sorry you went through that. :hugs:
But that is one of the keys to recovery - changing the way one thinks. it takes a lot of work and a lot of time. when an addict/alcoholic goes into recovery, this is part of what the treatment addresses, the way the addicts/alcoholics brain thinks. they have to relearn so many things. I think I heard Dr. Drew put it best - a person is pretty much stunted emotionally at the time they started using/drinking. so someone who is Charlies age, if they started using at 13, that is pretty much where they stopped maturing emotionally. pretty much why he is acting like a child. people need to remember too, that not only is the addict sick, the whole family is sick. the family is addicted to the addicts problems, even if not willingly. thats why its so important for friends and loved ones to attend Al-Anon. helps people understand the disease and how not to enable and also how to help themselves - its the same 12 step program. the family needs help undoing and healing the damage caused by the addict.
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Thanks, bagnshoofetish. Yeah, I don't deny that I have my own issues, anxiety, frustrations about the matter (I never went to any Al-Anon anything geared towards family members). In all of this, I truly feel for Martin Sheen. He had his own vices, which he overcame, but I'm sure it scares him anytime something like this happens to Charlie.

olialm, I would say that I can't believe how the pron star was so willing to speak, but I'd be lying. She took the check and practically ran, cashing it the very next day.
 
#553
I forgot this guy was even married!

Here's what his ex-wife of 2 years gets:

$55,000 for each child (2)
$758,000 in lieu of spousal support
$1,000,000 share of their $6.5 million home
$45,000 in moving expenses to move the other Los Feliz house she got in the settlement.
 
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