Chanel’s Rise & STALL: Defects, Difficulties & Deflection (formerly the 19 tote saga thread)

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Not trying to knock the author but it is interesting that the latest purseblog article on must know Chanel bags lists the 22 as the iconic Chanel shopping tote….

No bonbon? No Deauville? No GST?
And the trendy is missing also. I’d put the Gabrielle in there simply because it’s considered a classic even tho I don’t like it. Also, ummmmm how about the mini? The mini isn’t a classic flap, but it’s been all the rage for a decade. Some odd choices for sure. The 22 most def doesn’t belong there… a plug for Chanel perhaps?
 
And the trendy is missing also. I’d put the Gabrielle in there simply because it’s considered a classic even tho I don’t like it. Also, ummmmm how about the mini? The mini isn’t a classic flap, but it’s been all the rage for a decade. Some odd choices for sure. The 22 most def doesn’t belong there… a plug for Chanel perhaps?
Yes it sounds a little cynical but the 22 being there when it has reported quality issues and hasn’t been out that long compared to the others to prove it’s long term appeal seems like a bit of a plug- but IDK.
 
And the trendy is missing also. I’d put the Gabrielle in there simply because it’s considered a classic even tho I don’t like it. Also, ummmmm how about the mini? The mini isn’t a classic flap, but it’s been all the rage for a decade. Some odd choices for sure. The 22 most def doesn’t belong there… a plug for Chanel perhaps?
Anytime there are sponsors buying advertising, I wouldn't consider the source objective. If it were, it would be odd not to mention some of the specific quality issues with this bag and leather used? I don't see many quotes or sources referred to nor do I see many unique articles.
 
Yes it sounds a little cynical but the 22 being there when it has reported quality issues and hasn’t been out that long compared to the others to prove it’s long term appeal seems like a bit of a plug- but IDK.
Totally. I haven't seen the article, but I am assuming the classic flaps would obviously be on there and need no hype (and would seem fishy if they aren't included)... but from what you're reporting, sounds like the 22 is included because it needs more positive press to boost sales after all the negative reviews about poor quality.
 
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It's a Top 10 of Chanel Bags You Should Know, I just took a peek. I don't read the articles, but wanted to see the context.
My top 10 would differ than yours (general you), I've never been a Classic Flap fan, so although I "know" of them, it's not a bag I think everyone should have in their collection, for example.
Found the article linked here for those interested. I wouldn't have thought of half of these bags and it surprises me the 22 is listed since it's so recent. You're right; each of our top 10 will differ. This list is subjective.
 
I have both and 21p leather is much thicker and the shade of brown is different
Yeah, i thought so too from all the research i have done with 21P leather. It does look poofier from many an instagram photos.

Actually despite all said about Chanel's quality, I still like Chanel's sense of aesthetics with her large repertoire, variety and highly versatile stylish designs which can complement almost any occasions, outfit and also the mood of the wearer.
The intricate design and detail that went into that bag is evident as you can study every part of the bag like the quilts, the threading, the flaps, the logo , the shape, colour and every fold of the leather, the different texture, the chains, the straps etc so many things going on there.
There is evidently careful design thinking that went into the construct of the bag whether it is the classic, the 19, the boy, the gabrielle, the coco, the minis, the heart bag, S22 etc so many types of designs , in fact too many! Hope this is not the reason why quality is compromised if their attention is stretched so thinly across that many product lines including RTW, beauty products! Think LV is the other fashion house with as many bag varieties n other stuff
 
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The designs are what draw us in yes, but I have to disagree with the careful design. It's not only Chanel who seems to miss here, but this is the thread we are in. I think of all the tiny bags that are really unusable. Are they cute-yes. Are they functional -no. So many bags could benefit from another inch to fit a phone.

Crossbody bags are what most people seem to be looking for and most of these styles have very short drops. The bags like the clothing are geared mostly toward another market with shorter clientele. Most of the front or back pockets are not functional. If you were to gather a group of customers together and do a focus group on bag design, I think they would ask for different features.

It depends what you are looking for.
 
The designs are what draw us in yes, but I have to disagree with the careful design. It's not only Chanel who seems to miss here, but this is the thread we are in. I think of all the tiny bags that are really unusable. Are they cute-yes. Are they functional -no. So many bags could benefit from another inch to fit a phone.

Crossbody bags are what most people seem to be looking for and most of these styles have very short drops. The bags like the clothing are geared mostly toward another market with shorter clientele. Most of the front or back pockets are not functional. If you were to gather a group of customers together and do a focus group on bag design, I think they would ask for different features.

It depends what you are looking for.
So much for the sustainability concept that chanel is trying to achieve ha? Micro bag with no use, can’t even fit a credit card on some. They should be under necklace/belt accessories :)
 
Not meaning to hijack this thread( this is kind of relevant) but I’m having this same exact issue Tracey is having, but it is NOT just isolated to Chanel. This is my Lady Dior Diamond Motif in the all black leather, and it too has this strange peeling on the handle and I’ve only worn this a few times. I’m just posting this as a warning to everyone to just be careful what you buy, even outside of Chanel, as this issue isn’t solely isolated to this one company and it can affect all brands. I think this topic, as a whole, deserves awareness because nobody wants to make thousand(s) dollar mistakes6DCEFD7A-1839-44EF-95B5-D2356005B4C8.jpeg
 
RTW with buttons commonly falling off, that you have to go out of your way to request to be reinforced while purchasing?

If Chanel really reinvesting in the business, why do people keep raising quality issues even in RTW.

this is the same company which tells people they should only expect their leather bags to last a season or only wear RTW a few times as it is ‘fashion’ we can extrapolate from that how seriously they take sustainability.
Speaking of RTW, @TraceySH, you're going to love this:

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I don't know about you, but I flat out refuse buying a sweater with holes like this for 3,500 dollars. With 47% polyamide. H&M Premium Selection does better quality than this.

I reckon the markup on this is at least 100x, as in, it cost $35 to make something like this, labour and raw materials included. Chanel is fast fashion for the rich.
 
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Speaking of RTW, @TraceySH, you're going to love this:

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I don't know about you, but I flat out refuse buying a sweater with holes like this for 3,500 dollars. With 47% polyamide. H&M Premium Selection does better quality than this.

I reckon the markup on this is at least 100x, as in, it cost $35 to make something like this, labour and raw materials included. Chanel is fast fashion for the rich.
Omg is this Chanel RTW !? Omg and costs 3500$?
 
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