Thanks for sharing this information... is it possible that both Bourjois and Chanel Beauty products are manufactured under the same facility? o.o Because i do own both Bourjois and Chanel foundation, they both have the same smell!
Chanel’s Rise & STALL: Defects, Difficulties & Deflection (formerly the 19 tote saga thread)
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Hermes uses an actual metallic color as Chanel used to on lambskin. Now Chanel coats it rather than spending the money to actually mix the colors. They’re all Pantone colors that Chanel could easily use. They just choose to overlay it now.
One of my custom Chanels is a Pantone color that I brought them the number to on the outside and a different one on the inside. So I l know that they can do it.
They have used metallic finishes on severely ltd. Eds. but yes it probably is. On the other hands I have metallic and mirror finishes on BVs, Guccis, Tanner Krolle (I think they were owned by Chanel then) Balenciaga and Sergio Rossi and they are more than a decade old. On smooth, structured bags there's less problem, IMO, the issue comes from the need for hobos to be ultra-flexible but strong whatever the finish and/or the rubbing/stretching of the leather against or stretching of the fine metallic finish. My Chanel lambskins (that have chains) are protected by the metal hardware they travel through, and the threaded leather through the chain (if the bags have them - 3 of mine do) are protected because the angle of the threading doesn't allow for chaffing or stretching when passing through. Also my softest, most hobo (sort of) style is my backpack. Once it's on my back (or shoulder) I'm not really opening and closing. I think perhaps, the straps have to do too much on the 19 and 22, they seem to be constantly by traveling through the holes to be worn and opening closing, that's a lot of wear and tear very quickly.
Chanel opening (if not already) a monster facility in Austin, TX to manufacture beauty products in the USA.
You may not have taken it the wrong way, but for someone to tell me what kind of bag I own when I’ve been purchasing bags since I was a teen, like I don’t know the difference between a very expensive exotic skin (which I would never purchase) and an embossed one, I felt was in bad taste. To me the comment came off condescending. I think from the posts I’ve made one could guess I’d likely know the difference, and she could’ve approached it a better way.
Just because my response was sarcastic doesn’t mean it was animus at all. You may be reading it that way, but in no way was it malevolent. It was a very direct response, albeit sarcastic.
It's possible they have a similar original fragrance (or product masks - fragrance they use to mask key ingredients). I have both too (Bourjois and Chanel) and happy with things I've purchased. A lot more R&D goes into Chanel and the packaging is obviously far more upmarket on Chanel. It's a fairly recent acquisition (Coty also make for a lot of other brands including MJ, OPI, Calvin Klein etc but they need some hits) so we'll probably see a stronger distinction in the future. It's actually a benefit to Coty than Chanel have shares in the company.
Attacking you? Are we reading the same comment here??
I’m not looking to argue, I just take offense that you’re correcting me and still continue to correct me on a bag I own. A crocodile bag from Chanel would cost a minimum of $30K and I would never buy an exotic skin bag. If you’ve read the posts you might gather I would know the difference between an exotic and an embossed skin.
There could have been a nicer approach from you. Not a full blown, I stand corrected stance. I was very direct and sarcastic, at worst. If you’re taking my comment as a reason to argue, you’re incorrect. Just like I took your comment to be condescending, and apparently that seems to be incorrect from what you’re writing.
To say I ripped others on here is untrue. I mentioned a comparison was delusional, but I’ve never ripped anyone on this thread, just like I never called anyone delusional. I feel you’re extreme with your statements and take out of context in regards to how direct I am.
I’ve been voicing my opinions which greatly differ from yours and stating so with conviction. I hardly think that rips other people. And I’ve always respected people on this platform. Writing can intensify words when written quickly and directly and is void of inflection, so I guess that doesn’t help. I’m certainly not angry. I just have a strong point of view.
And yes, the name of this bag is indeed called The Cocodile Gabrielle. You can see that on sites like Fashionphile and that was also the name on the Chanel website when it came out.
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I'm based in Asia so maybe I haven't come across made in USA Chanel products in my country yet!
Really eye-opening that Chanel Beauty is expanding rapidly...
Except your very disrespectful post to me that was 100% personal, that the mods had to delete.
Hi Tracey, may I know what do you mean by REV bags? Trying to know more about which bags still made with 100% leatherWell, I mean, making 15 million bags a year + kind of puts them in that category already? I think the REV bags are still 100% leather. My BLACK reissues & BLACK & beige clair jumbos are veiny & irregular surfaces. I knew they did something weird to the 19s when they came out b/c they felt like plastic, but honestly, I didn't care all that much cuz I've taken them out in the rain, spilled food on them, coffee on them, thrown them around, put them on the floor, and they've held up well. So, I mean, not great but that was a decent offset.
There's another thread out there right now about all this stuff BUT Chanel sells a feeling, not necessarily a quality product. I think people are hooked no matter what material they use!
It was personal, but I’m confused how it was disrespectful. You made a reference to your spending history and I felt it was irrelevant to disclose amounts. I felt this was not the place to show off your money. You can say you’re a VVIC or Camellia client, but we don’t need monetary figures. You asked them to delete it. I called you out on it and it was deleted because it deviated from the topic, not because it was deemed disrespectful.
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So REV bags are considered Chanel classics. "Classics", per Chanel, are pretty fluid as they can shift and change over time. Right now, to my knowledge, that means black & beige clair caviar & lambskin jumbos, gold or silver hw, m/l, maxi, small double flaps, and black calfskin 2.55 reissue 227, 226, 225, 224 (double flaps NOT the mini which is NOT a 224). The black boy in new medium, old medium, small in caviar, smooth calf, both gold and silver hardware. I think the black 19 might be on that list now, but not sure. The Gabrielle might have been on there, but that's being discontinued. Minis were never considered classics despite everyone saying "classic mini", so they aren't REV.
The REV are released periodically throughout the year & are not on any collection schedule....
Then please don't make blanket statements like the above when you cannot back them up. No one asked you to judge me personally about my spending history, and this is my thread, so your judgment of what is and isn't ok on this thread is completely irrelevant. It was deleted BECAUSE it was inappropriate, disrespectful and, as it was conveyed "starting drama". Take the L please and move on.