Chanel’s Rise & STALL: Defects, Difficulties & Deflection (formerly the 19 tote saga thread)

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Reissues are amazing. I wish they still made the CC version on that bag. The CC actually looks better in my opinion, although I still love the reissue. For me the closure isn’t as easy on the reissue as a CC turn lock. And the hardware closure fades much more because of the larger size. It is incredibly well made and so carefree and classy.
To my knowledge, the original 2.55 always had the turnlock, but with the leather/ metal woven chains. Later upon release of the reissue, Karl revived the flap with the turnlock but the chains were replaced with the bisioux. The classic flap, of course, always had the CC, the original & 2.55 reissue never has.
 
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These bags are 80% flex, 20% fashion statement imo. While the quality may or may not be better than a-few-hundred-dollar bags, the difference is not that drastic to justify 10+x price tag.
A lot of people also conflate quality with durability. They want their "investment" bags to last forever and look brand new with daily abuse (hence the popularity and resell value of Chanel caviar and LV canvas). So yes, plasticky piece of sh** with a big CC is what consumers want. :lol:
Along with that sentiment, if people are buying up a storm, so much that they have put limits on purchases, it means people are NOT seeing these items as heirloom pieces. They are just fast fashion pieces people cycle through at rapid pace. So again, why on earth would they pay attention to quality when bag retention might only be a few months these days?
 
To my knowledge, the original 2.55 always had the turnlock, but with the leather/ metal woven chains. Later upon release of the reissue, Karl revived the flap with the turnlock but the chains were replaced with the bisioux. The classic flap, of course, always had the CC, the original & 2.55 reissue never has.
Yes it has. The reissue had the cc turn lock and bisioux metal strap. You can see them resold on legitimate resale sites like Fashionphile or 1stDibs and you can also search for archived photos of it online.
 
Yes it has. You can see them resold on legitimate resale sites like Fashionphile or 1stDibs and you can also search for archived photos of it online.
I think you might be mistaken here. This is the original Chanel flap from 1955. The classic flap, as we know it, came along later, in the 80s I believe. Then the 2.55 was "reissued" and we had the choice of either the classic flap with the CC or the reissue (but with different chains than the original) and more demure turnlock.

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Along with that sentiment, if people are buying up a storm, so much that they have put limits on purchases, it means people are NOT seeing these items as heirloom pieces. They are just fast fashion pieces people cycle through at rapid pace. So again, why on earth would they pay attention to quality when bag retention might only be a few months these days?
My immediate thought is to say people are not getting rid of things that fast at these prices. But as I think about it, the FB groups and online consignments are full of bags just a season or two old and people are not able to get their money back. They are onto the next thing. Some brands are constantly hyping the next it bag. I think you are right!

I see lots of listings where bags are being sold and the disclosures being made are issues present at the time of purchase. More and more people want to buy directly from the Boutique so that they can inspect it for flaws.
 
That's Karl's classic flap, not the 2.55.
Hm. Ok so now I can’t be certain, so maybe it’s the classic flap with the bisioux chain. I feel like I’ve seen the reissue in this exact combo but now I’m not certain. Would have to search for it which I don’t have time for, especially considering the ridiculous amount of time I’ve spent on this thread, lol.
 
Hm. Ok so now I can’t be certain, so maybe it’s the classic flap with the bisioux chain. I feel like I’ve seen the reissue in this exact combo but now I’m not certain. Would have to search for it which I don’t have time for, especially considering the ridiculous amount of time I’ve spent on this thread, lol.
Well, this is just sort of well known history of the classic vs 2.55. But no worries it’s a lot to keep straight. Anyway, as always appreciate your colorful and thoughtful input, but please don’t stress yourself out. I am sure there are other threads and people with woes that could use your insight. And no, I’m not being facetious. Said in earnest.
 
Along with that sentiment, if people are buying up a storm, so much that they have put limits on purchases, it means people are NOT seeing these items as heirloom pieces. They are just fast fashion pieces people cycle through at rapid pace. So again, why on earth would they pay attention to quality when bag retention might only be a few months these days?
My guess is based on their sales data 99+% of their clients are already within these new limits, and they probably make exceptions for their VVIPs who are above the threshold. However making it seem like people are buying up classic flaps like hot cakes creates even more fomo and desirability. Besides, having enough stock of plastick sh** with a big CC on the shelves (but just enough to make it seem like it was a happy coincidence that it happened to come in today) would help them lure in and capture new customers (cause we all know it won't just be the one and only bag). #conspiracytheory
 
My guess is based on their sales data 99+% of their clients are already within these new limits, and they probably make exceptions for their VVIPs who are above the threshold. However making it seem like people are buying up classic flaps like hot cakes creates even more fomo and desirability. Besides, having enough stock of plastick sh** with a big CC on the shelves (but just enough to make it seem like it was a happy coincidence that it happened to come in today) would help them lure in and capture new customers (cause we all know it won't just be the one and only bag). #conspiracytheory
Excellent response! And yes VIC have different limits. 100%.
 
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Along with that sentiment, if people are buying up a storm, so much that they have put limits on purchases, it means people are NOT seeing these items as heirloom pieces. They are just fast fashion pieces people cycle through at rapid pace. So again, why on earth would they pay attention to quality when bag retention might only be a few months these days?
They’ve put limits on purchases because of resellers and because they are trying to regain exclusivity. And also because merchandise from new collections were almost completely sold out at launch and there would be no merchandise for customers coming into the store. Now people can actually walk into boutiques on the day or week before launch and purchase items that would normally be reserved.

I sold a number of things in the past year after I realized I spent far too much time and money shopping at the height of the pandemic and ended up with purchases I didn’t need.

I cleared out my closet to curate what I really wanted and needed, got rid of items I thought I’d never sell, like a dark red caviar mini from 2017 in perfectly new condition that I hardly used. I soon realized certain items were selling at crazy rates and prices because no one was spending money to make up for no dining, entertainment, travel, etc. Many people were putting their money into luxury goods.

Well, life has crawled back into normalcy and people are out, dining, going to games, concerts, traveling, etc,. Now our economy is not stable, inflation is out of control, basic things like gas and groceries are so much more expensive, free government money and fraud (people taking advantage of apartment moratoriums, EDD fraud, etc) has subsided or will soon end. All these things have contributed to why things are not selling the way they were.
 
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