That Birkin is amaze*****. I actually love gloss on Rouge H. Beautiful bags! But the woofer takes the cake!The Kelly is 1994 and the leather is like velvet to me. The Birkin is 2001 and you cannot tell from the picture, but it is too shiny for my taste, sort of like patent leather compared to the box I love. The Briard is 2015 and perfect in every way.