I think I want to get some type of key holder/cles because I don't want my keys to scratch other things in my purse. A 4 key holder is probably not going to work for me, so I think I'm going to need some type of cles or pochette cles. I have a vernis pochette cles in the newer style, which is a little bigger than the old style, but it's not big enough. I have 4 keys, but also a little remote thing to unlock my car and a small key code/generator thing for work. When I try all that on the vernis cles, it's too tight of a fit. The vernis just doesn't have much give. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about something that might be a little bigger, or if anyone has any pics of what they can fit in their cles, if anyone actually uses them for keys! (I will also look around in the Clubhouse).