AUTHENTICATE this COACH!

[Two.time.bags]

Item: lot of 2 Bonnie Cashin totes with striped lining
Item no: 221385718564
Seller: dalggma
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-1960s-B...564?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item338b9dfb24
Comment: are these authentic, please?

 

[JOODLZ]

Could someone please authenticate this Coach bag?
From Goodwill (where else?) yesterday.
Approx. 7”w x 9”h x 3”d Strap drop 23.5” to rings
I'm guessing 1994 Murphy Bag #9930...yes?
As always, thanks in advance!

 

[Beccabaglady]

A little OT, but it really burns me up to have stuff misrepresented like that. I found a bag for $3 at goodwill, learned how to rehab it, got it authenticated, and then eventually resold it on ebay. I don't remember for how much, maybe $15-$30? It had some issues, and I pointed them out in my listing.


The issues were not huge, but distinctive enough that when I stumbled upon THE SAME BAG being resold months later, I knew exactly that it had been mine. It had been bought by someone who is also a rehabber AND (and a member of tpf!), and is now being represented as a rare sample bag that was part of a private collection that goes back several decades, back to the Cashin era!


No, no it's not! It's just my little bag from the 80's, and they made tons of them!


It's not that the reseller is selling it for A LOT more than what I sold it for, (I couldn't care less about that, I got what I wanted out of it). It's that someone is going to plunk down over $100 for something they think is super rare, and it isn't! Charge what you want for the bag, just don't lie and say it's some rare thing that your great Aunt Tilly owned back in 1963!

I agree! It's a purposeful attempt to deceive and I would definitely add them to my "do not buy from/do not sell to" list! And I apologize for being OT, this just really gets my goat.

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: lot of 2 Bonnie Cashin totes with striped lining
Item no: 221385718564
Seller: dalggma
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-1960s-B...564?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item338b9dfb24
Comment: are these authentic, please?

Having owned a BC bag, I question this one but I believe there may have been different striped patterns used in her bags. So please wait for other opinions. Also, the I. Magnin store label looks like it's one of those sticky tags they stick on fakes.

The pattern and weave of the fabric as well as the stitching look cheap.

Compare:

 

[soozlz]

We don't even have a decent consignment store. I bought a Legacy bag at one about 30 miles away. It wasn't super cheap but it was cheaper than all the MFF stuff they had! I've gone back and they have raised the prices even more. They have MFF stuff priced higher than you would have to pay for it new at the outlet, which is only 30 miles away in another direction!

Even though I haven't found much at thrift stores in California, I just realized that my favorite thrift find was my grape Sonoma that I got outside of Los Angeles at a Goodwill, and I almost never go to Goodwill because they never have anything!


No I didn't. I don't need any more encouragement to look for vintage bags!

Wow!! I wonder why they are so pricey? Maybe they think everything is 'rare' because it's older.

You found a grape sonoma at goodwill!?! That's awesome!!! Which model?

When I saw the color sample pic, I thought you went for it.

 

[Beccabaglady]

Here's another J8Y from debbie208. No clear pic of creed, but she lists the number in the description.

Item: Bleeker Bag
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Bag-B...484?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4d19a3903c

Item #:
331142631484

Seller: http://www.ebay.com/usr/debbieb208

 

[Hyacinth]

Here's another J8Y from debbie208. No clear pic of creed, but she lists the number in the description.

Item: Bleeker Bag
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Bag-B...484?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4d19a3903c

Item #:
331142631484

Seller: http://www.ebay.com/usr/debbieb208

I noticed that one yesterday - the stitching at the base of the handles isn't quite right. It's probably not a clear enough problem to be reportable but anyone thinking of buying it needs to hit the Back button.

I AM reporting it, and the problems really are subtle. The big thing is the stitching on the main part of the bage at the bases of the straps and the width of the straps themselves. Here's exactly what my report says, compare the fake to the genuine one I mention in my report:

serial number in listing has a known fake prefix J8Y-, stitching on the base of the handles is the wrong shape and should be "flattened" on the bottom edges, handles are too thin and not stitched right, stitching all over esp. around the base is sloppy with overlapping stitches, also uneven stitches - see the close-ups of the stitching around the bases in pictures 1 & 2. The top of the bag in pic#2 also has really sloppy stitching.

Stiching on the top leather zipper pull is also a mess, the contrast stitching is too light, and the strap handles are too narrow, they should line up at the base with the stitching on the body of the bag.

Here's a genuine one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Vinta...397?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3cd8d030cd



Unfortunately there's another fake listed by an experienced seller with similar problems and the same J8Y-9303 serial number:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-C...314?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item19e9a402aa

ETA - and here's another fake with a totally fake creed, nothing about it is right including the formatting and the wording, please report:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-C...572?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item338ba2fc6c


ETA - below is a pic of a genuine bag to show what I mean by saying about the fake "stitching on the base of the handles is the wrong shape and should be "flattened" on the bottom edges..."

 

[Beccabaglady]

I noticed that one yesterday - the stitching at the base of the handles isn't quite right. It's probably not a clear enough problem to be reportable but anyone thinking of buying it needs to hit the Back button.

That's what I thought too Hyacinth. The stitching also looks dodgy along the inside of the top edge. I wish we had a clear shot of the zipper pull!

 

[whateve]

Item: lot of 2 Bonnie Cashin totes with striped lining
Item no: 221385718564
Seller: dalggma
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-1960s-B...564?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item338b9dfb24
Comment: are these authentic, please?

Having owned a BC bag, I question this one but I believe there may have been different striped patterns used in her bags. So please wait for other opinions. Also, the I. Magnin store label looks like it's one of those sticky tags they stick on fakes.

The pattern and weave of the fabric as well as the stitching look cheap.

Compare:

The earlier lining didn't have the black lines between the stripes. Based on sacs magnifiques guide: http://www.sacsmagnifiques.com/2013/10/guide-coach-creeds-logos-hangtagsa.html?m=1
I feel pretty comfortable that the one with the Coach label is authentic. It is from the early 60s. The other one might very well be authentic as well, but I can't say for sure.

 

[whateve]

Wow!! I wonder why they are so pricey? Maybe they think everything is 'rare' because it's older.

You found a grape sonoma at goodwill!?! That's awesome!!! Which model?

When I saw the color sample pic, I thought you went for it.

Consignment stores and some thrift stores don't do any homework when pricing. They see the Coach name and immediately think it is made of gold! They tend to especially overprice signature.

My grape sonoma is the pocket zip nubuc. I paid $36! It was in the glass case but maybe the pricer at Goodwill had never seen a sonoma before.

 

[soozlz]

Consignment stores and some thrift stores don't do any homework when pricing. They see the Coach name and immediately think it is made of gold! They tend to especially overprice signature.

My grape sonoma is the pocket zip nubuc. I paid $36! It was in the glass case but maybe the pricer at Goodwill had never seen a sonoma before.

Now that you mention it, most of the behind-the-counter bags at the store I go to are signature. The only exception I see is the ladybug bag and one other leather coach bag I can't identify.

That grape sonoma is wonderful!! If I found something like that at goodwill I wouldn't believe my eyes at first.

 

[Hyacinth]

That's what I thought too Hyacinth. The stitching also looks dodgy along the inside of the top edge. I wish we had a clear shot of the zipper pull!

The zipper pull in the fake looks like it has two extra-long stitches at the wide end of the pull. The genuine zipper pulls on that style were kind of thin and very narrow at the ring end so it's hard to see the differences. Here's a real one:

ETA - the fake Bleecker has been removed from Ebay but it's still up at Etsy
https://www.etsy.com/listing/181170...S&ga_search_type=vintage&ga_view_type=gallery

Here's a genuine brown one that shows the stitching colors and details and a good overhead shot of the top zipper and zipper pull:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-9303-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Here's the zipper pull below the pics of a genuine one

 

[Hyacinth]

Could someone please authenticate this Coach bag?
From Goodwill (where else?) yesterday.
Approx. 7”w x 9”h x 3”d Strap drop 23.5” to rings
I'm guessing 1994 Murphy Bag #9930...yes?
As always, thanks in advance!

Yes, genuine.

 

[Shasta99]

Hi, I would appreciate having these 2 new to me purchases authenticated.
2001 stewardess and 2005 city bag?

Thanks for your time and expertise!

 

[whateve]

Hi, I would appreciate having these 2 new to me purchases authenticated.
2001 stewardess and 2005 city bag?

Thanks for your time and expertise!

They both look fine. The city bag is from 1995, not 2005.