Usually they do buy the large zipper and cut it to fit which means that their zippers are missing the ferrule at the closed end of the zipper. One of the first things Hyacinth taught me is that Coach zippers, especially on the all leather bags, should fit the bag they are in. I've seen some bags (like the little holiday pouches and similar bags) where the zipper extends in a tab but the zippers still have the ferrule in those cases.
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Usually they do buy the large zipper and cut it to fit which means that their zippers are missing the ferrule at the closed end of the zipper. One of the first things Hyacinth taught me is that Coach zippers, especially on the all leather bags, should fit the bag they are in. I've seen some bags (like the little holiday pouches and similar bags) where the zipper extends in a tab but the zippers still have the ferrule in those cases.
I didn't even know that was called a ferrule! I just checked a few of my bags. My Madison Biltmore and Carlyle don't have the metal piece at the back end of the zipper but the Drake does and all my other Coach vintage bags do. My Fendi and my new Coaches don't have a stop at either end on the inside pockets.
ETA: Actually I don't see the ends on either side of the zipper in Hyacinth's example of a correct pocket. I think they didn't do this on the nylon zippers.
And this is a picture of the bag and creed of the EIGHTH (at least) fake bag in the large lot sold by botticelli4grace, the lot for which she not only refused to do that right thing for her buyer for but in fact, filed a police report! :censor:
Purse #8: Serial number D6J-6094 ---- Notice the uncentered pattern, sloppy crooked stitching on the creed, the text describing a leather bag on this non-leather item and a date code indicating it was made in 1996 --- FOUR years before Coach made signature bags and 4 years before they made their signature demi.
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Out of curiosity, how much did the lot originally sell for? Did the buyer lose a lot of money?
$255 was the lot final auction price. I don't recall the shipping. But yes, it's a lot of money!
When I saw that last night I knew I had to show it to you! Sorry it took so long to get the link to you- it was "Scrub the deck & railings" day. YUCK! I reported it. Should we post in the Hall of Shame?
It doesn't hurt. CL listings are easy to report by just clicking the "prohibited" button and the more flags they get, the more apt they are to remove the listing. So yes, there's no reason not to post it.
Thanks! It definitely would not have been bid so high if the bidders had known that most of them were fake. To me, that is clearly fraud.
Thanks - I do absolutely understand that, just was expressing my gut feeling, because I've personally found so many fake Pats with those same darned mismatched grommets.
I need to master identifying the other fake construction details better on the fly, I so appreciate that you all take the time to educate us on this stuff!
Yep, at least some of them did. Some fakes have the correct size zipper. I'm not sure if that's something only found on the Pat's Legacy but it might be.
Yes, the mismatched strap is always a warning sign. I'm a little surprised that the seller didn't catch it since they have been selling vintage Coach for a long time.
Wow. Just. Wow.
That person needs to channel that creativity into a career, definitely some potential there as a speechwriter for politicians
Unfortunately, IIRC, most of the bidders were low feedback and probably not skilled in authentication details of Coach. (The buyer only has 8 feedbacks and clearly, she didn't know what she was bidding on although it's been a subsequent learning experience for her.) I recall looking at the bidding history prior to the listing being removed.
The thing that really ticks me off is that (in my opinion), the seller, botticelli4grace knows Coach, knows which pictures are necessary for authentication purposes and in her listings for other authentic items, she has clear and definitive pictures showing the necessary details to prove authenticity.
The fact that her pictures in this listing showed no hardware, no creeds and not even any pictures showing the full bags told me that she was clearly attempting to hide the fact that items were fake. There are minimal descriptions and no serial numbers.
The only authentic designer item in the lot is the green Dooney. Most of the Coaches were fake and most of the others weren't faked brands.
So yes, definitely fraud, IMO.
ETA: I don't know how long this will be viewable but here's a cache of the listing:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...4grace&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
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