AUTHENTICATE this COACH

[ljindka]

Hi, everyone! I am new to this site as a poster, but I have been reading and definitely learning a lot for a while now, so thank you for this, active contributors!

I currently have two 90s Coach bags - both Court bags with style number 9870, that I intend to sell.

I am pretty sure this one is authentic:

But I would really appreciate your thoughts on this one (it looks authentic and exactly the same as the black one, but I am not very certain about the overstampings above and below numbers, which, I hope, you can see in photo - should that be a red flag?). Thank you in advance!

 

[faithhope]

Sorry, I don't have enough experience with the China bags and creeds to help. The differences in the two creeds BeenBurned showed might be due to the angle and lighting. We've seen a few other styles where the Cs on the back aren't centered but I can't say if this is one of them.

Thank you both, I really appreciate it Wow- I didn't realize some styles weren't centered on the back- I am thinking this one might be ok then. I've gotten pretty good at this point at authenticating them myself- but every once in a while I just don't know... very grateful that you guys are here to help in those situations.

I did have a 'scary' well-done counterfeit leather duffle style 10398 I found a couple months ago- I puzzled over it for a while- the only 'clues' were that the last numbers in the creed were actually 10399 and the zippers were silver-tone (and appeared original) while the rest of the hardware was antique brass- otherwise it was perfect.

 

[rockstarmish]

PLEASE AUTHENTICATE THIS:

Item: COACH PENNY

Listing number: 181151090640

Seller: probird2010

Link: http://www.ebay.ph/itm/181151090640?...84.m1423.l2649

Comments:

I like this bag but I'm unsure of it's authenticity. I already have a Coach penny perforated watermelon one and based on these pictures, It doesn't look alike at all. I need your advice and opinions. I've searched online for Coach penny in pink, but I haven't seen this shade at all which makes me think it's fake? Please let me know what you guys think?

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi, everyone! I am new to this site as a poster, but I have been reading and definitely learning a lot for a while now, so thank you for this, active contributors!

I currently have two 90s Coach bags - both Court bags with style number 9870, that I intend to sell.

I am pretty sure this one is authentic:

But I would really appreciate your thoughts on this one (it looks authentic and exactly the same as the black one, but I am not very certain about the overstampings above and below numbers, which, I hope, you can see in photo - should that be a red flag?). Thank you in advance!

They both look ok, and the overstampings on the one with the silver hardware are normal and nothing to worry about.

 

[Hyacinth]

AUTHENTICATE THIS:

Item: COACH PENNY

Listing number: 181151090640

Seller: probird2010

Link: http://www.ebay.ph/itm/181151090640?...84.m1423.l2649

Comments:

I like this bag but I'm unsure of it's authenticity. I already have a Coach penny perforated watermelon one and based on these pictures, It doesn't look alike at all. I need your advice and opinions. I've searched online for Coach penny in pink, but I haven't seen this shade at all which makes me think it's fake? Please let me know what you guys think?

Because of the huge number of AAA fakes coming through the Philippines, we usually advise residents to avoid buying from local sellers. In a case like this where there is no clear close photo of the creed patch, that advice is even more important. Their Coach items seem to be "New WITHOUT tags" - why would a seller remove the price tags?

The seller already has 1 Neutral and 2 Negatives just in the last few months (both Negatives are from the same buyer) that accuse them of selling fakes. I would not buy from that seller even if the color turned out to be genuine. Colors can be different for different markets and whether a color is available in one part of the world doesn't mean it's available everywhere. Coach even makes special colors just for certain large department stores, so judging if something is real based only on color is a dangerous thing to do. I just know that because the seller may have sold fakes before and because none of the pictures are clear enough to show important details, I would NOT buy from that seller.

 

[girlskingdom]

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ETA - Never mind.

thanks, Hyacinth! If you're willing can you please help me to take a look at this link intead?http://www.flickr.com/photos/97376521@N08/sets/72157634078572867/

I tried to make things easier but....I'm a real forum noob and I just couldn't make the image attachment works!

 

[rockstarmish]

Because of the huge number of AAA fakes coming through the Philippines, we usually advise residents to avoid buying from local sellers. In a case like this where there is no clear close photo of the creed patch, that advice is even more important. Their Coach items seem to be "New WITHOUT tags" - why would a seller remove the price tags?

The seller already has 1 Neutral and 2 Negatives just in the last few months (both Negatives are from the same buyer) that accuse them of selling fakes. I would not buy from that seller even if the color turned out to be genuine. Colors can be different for different markets and whether a color is available in one part of the world doesn't mean it's available everywhere. Coach even makes special colors just for certain large department stores, so judging if something is real based only on color is a dangerous thing to do. I just know that because the seller may have sold fakes before and because none of the pictures are clear enough to show important details, I would NOT buy from that seller.

Thank you so much Hyacinth It's nice to hear an honest perspective from an expert. I had some doubts on buying it since yesterday because the material, color and price didn't fit to me. I have an authentic coach penny already that I bought for about double the price and the leather is different. I can't thank you enough!

 

[Hyacinth]

thanks, Hyacinth! If you're willing can you please help me to take a look at this link intead?http://www.flickr.com/photos/97376521@N08/sets/72157634078572867/

I tried to make things easier but....I'm a real forum noob and I just couldn't make the image attachment works!

I'm not an expert on recent styles but it looks good to me.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you so much Hyacinth It's nice to hear an honest perspective from an expert. I had some doubts on buying it since yesterday because the material, color and price didn't fit to me. I have an authentic coach penny already that I bought for about double the price and the leather is different. I can't thank you enough!

You're welcome.

I just looked at the larger photos you posted, and although I can't read the creed patch, what I can see of it makes me even more sure that buying from that seller is not a good idea. The patch looks like it's badly made and badly sewn, the black around the edges looks much too thick, and the thread seems to be different colors and the stitching different sizes. The longer I look at it, the more fake it looks.

 

[Hyacinth]

Originally Posted by Hyacinth
Sorry, I don't have enough experience with the China bags and creeds to help. The differences in the two creeds BeenBurned showed might be due to the angle and lighting. We've seen a few other styles where the Cs on the back aren't centered but I can't say if this is one of them.

Thank you both, I really appreciate it Wow- I didn't realize some styles weren't centered on the back- I am thinking this one might be ok then. I've gotten pretty good at this point at authenticating them myself- but every once in a while I just don't know... very grateful that you guys are here to help in those situations.

I did have a 'scary' well-done counterfeit leather duffle style 10398 I found a couple months ago- I puzzled over it for a while- the only 'clues' were that the last numbers in the creed were actually 10399 and the zippers were silver-tone (and appeared original) while the rest of the hardware was antique brass- otherwise it was perfect.

That's just one reason why it's dangerous to believe that all - or ANY - of those "Rules" in all those online Buying Guides are true. There are a ton of exceptions to the Centered C rule, and not only on the backs of the bags but even on the front, and not just for obvious exceptions like Scarf Prints, Signature Optics, and other prints. Here are two totally genuine bags where the Signature Cs don't line up on the front either - Style 70077 Heritage Crossbody, and 15229 a Poppy Tartan Tote made for the outlets (almost all the Poppy Tartan patterns have uncentered C patterns). And those are just a few of the exceptions, see the bottom 2 pics of the front and back of style 10483 - the back doesn't line up, but there's no easy way to tell the front from the back, so a lot of sellers ended up photographing the wrong side and being accused of selling fakes.

Don't ever depend on online guides - except of course for the ones I wrote for Salearea:
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea_W0QQcpnameZmembersQQprZsaleareaQQuqtZg

 

[fuzzymummy]

Hello, everyone, I was just wondering, since Ebay sellers are supposed to have their Coach items authenticated prior to listing, is there a list of Ebay sellers who actually do it? I go through the old purse forum threads sometimes to see if an item I'm interested in has already been authenticated prior to listing but with 700+ pages it can be a daunting task sometimes. I have figured out on my own, sellers I can buy from with confidence eg. salearea but there's gotta be more out there.

Also, is there a way sellers could provide a link to the authentication (if one has been done) on the listing that would take a prospective bidder to the Purse Forum. This may have been asked before so if it has I'm sorry to be redundant.

 

[whateve]

Hello, everyone, I was just wondering, since Ebay sellers are supposed to have their Coach items authenticated prior to listing, is there a list of Ebay sellers who actually do it? I go through the old purse forum threads sometimes to see if an item I'm interested in has already been authenticated prior to listing but with 700+ pages it can be a daunting task sometimes. I have figured out on my own, sellers I can buy from with confidence eg. salearea but there's gotta be more out there.

Also, is there a way sellers could provide a link to the authentication (if one has been done) on the listing that would take a prospective bidder to the Purse Forum. This may have been asked before so if it has I'm sorry to be redundant.

I think very few sellers authenticate their items on tpf before listing. Several of the established sellers authenticate their own listings. There are many trusted sellers. TPF isn't the only place to get purses authenticated. There is also an ebay authentication thread and several private companies that do authentication.

Ebay rules don't say you have to get your items authenticated before listing; they say you can't list something unless you know it is authentic.

If I'm not mistaken, ebay sellers can't provide a link to the authentication because it is prohibited to have outside links in your listing.

 

[innessfree]

Hi there! Trying to find my perfect summer travel bag, and I think this might be it - if it's real. Help me out?

Item: VTG Coach British Tan Leather City Equestrian Handbag Purse Crossbody Messenger
Listing number: 200933320166
Seller: allforangie
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/200933320166?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Comments: The stamp looks a little light, maybe? I'd love it to be authentic, though! Serial # is 036-1122.

Can't wait to hear back. Thank you so much!

 

[fuzzymummy]

I think very few sellers authenticate their items on tpf before listing. Several of the established sellers authenticate their own listings. There are many trusted sellers. TPF isn't the only place to get purses authenticated. There is also an ebay authentication thread and several private companies that do authentication.

Ebay rules don't say you have to get your items authenticated before listing; they say you can't list something unless you know it is authentic.

If I'm not mistaken, ebay sellers can't provide a link to the authentication because it is prohibited to have outside links in your listing.

Thanks so much for all the info. I am learning a lot.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi there! Trying to find my perfect summer travel bag, and I think this might be it - if it's real. Help me out?

Item: VTG Coach British Tan Leather City Equestrian Handbag Purse Crossbody Messenger
Listing number: 200933320166
Seller: allforangie
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/200933320166?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Comments: The stamp looks a little light, maybe? I'd love it to be authentic, though! Serial # is 036-1122.

Can't wait to hear back. Thank you so much!

It looks like a genuine City Bag, as long as it has the right measurements.