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socmoe said:
Hi everyone I bought a bag last week that came in the mail today. Hyacinth couldn't authenticate because of there weren't enough photos, so I just took some. http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-763164-303.html#post24175640


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There is a piece of leather/fabric over the back of the turnlock - is that unusual? As always, thanks so much everyone!
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Genuine, it was called a North-South Slim Shoulder Flap. I can't answer about the turnlock without seeing another bag with a picture of the back of the turnlock. There are 2 others listed but they don't show that area. And it really doesn't matter as long as this one's genuine.
 
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Hyacinth said:
See, this is why trying to guess a color from a photo or catalog is useless. Printed or digitized colors are almost never the same shade as they appear in Real Life because there are so many variations not just in camera settings and computer adjustments, but also in lighting and printing processes.

Your photos to my eyes look to be EXACTLY the same color as a different style bag from the same time period in one of Coach's catalogs, and that color is clearly labeled as Putty. So if the actual bag you have is more gold-colored, it's kind of hopeless trying to pin a color name on it when I can't see the exact color of the bag and if the catalog photo isn't visually accurate either. That's why I don't get involved in trying to figure out colors in photos especially when they're brownish or tan shades. Coach just made too many similar colors in those shades.
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As a graphic artist, I deal with these EXACT color issues on a daily basis! So I went back in my archives to your posting of Coach Hangtag colors (http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/color-examples-from-classic-collection-732166.html#post21063019). Taking everything into consideration (age, in particular), I think my Dinky is probably Tabac. As always, thanks for sharing your amazing knowledge with all of us here!
 
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bought by my hubby and just came in today.. pls authenticate.. tnx..

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First of all, thank you to all the ladies on this forum that have been so kind to authenticate my bags and ease me of my worry. :smile1: I really appreciate the time you guys take to do this. I apologize for posting again, but this Daypack is just getting to me. Hyacinth is an expert with Coach bags, and it worries me that even she is unsure of its authenticity. Can I get any second opinions and does anyone know what else I can do to find out if the bag is really authentic or not?

Item: Coach Vintage Daypack
Seller: discobaygirl
Item Number: 151008395067
Item Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Vintag...vip=true&rt=nc
 
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raichu_thunder said:
First of all, thank you to all the ladies on this forum that have been so kind to authenticate my bags and ease me of my worry. :smile1: I really appreciate the time you guys take to do this. I apologize for posting again, but this Daypack is just getting to me. Hyacinth is an expert with Coach bags, and it worries me that even she is unsure of its authenticity. Can I get any second opinions and does anyone know what else I can do to find out if the bag is really authentic or not?

Item: Coach Vintage Daypack
Seller: discobaygirl
Item Number: 151008395067
Item Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Vintag...vip=true&rt=nc
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Since there's at least one more with the same manufacturing codes that seems ok, the chances are that yours is too. But it's a simple fact that sometimes older bags CAN'T be authenticated with 100 percent accuracy, and I say so up front if I'm not sure. There are NO records from that time period except what we can figure out from photos and that's not a completely dependable source. Comparing things like stitching and turnlocks often doesn't work, the fakes makers could buy the same hardware and hire leatherworkers with the same level of experience as the people who worked for Coach.

Many older bags were faked very well, and you just have to take your chances. And no, there's no one else who you can ask. Would you rather be told "I don't know" by someone who's honest about it and experienced in doing it, or be lied to by someone who thinks YKK zippers are a valid authentication tool and who wouldn't recognise a fake if the word was stamped all over the front in neon letters?
 
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Hyacinth said:
Genuine, it was called a North-South Slim Shoulder Flap. I can't answer about the turnlock without seeing another bag with a picture of the back of the turnlock. There are 2 others listed but they don't show that area. And it really doesn't matter as long as this one's genuine.
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As always, thanks, Hyacinth - you are a wealth of information!
 
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Hi Hyacinth, Thank your so much to spend time checking the item for me late last night. I really appreciate it.

I just realized that I put the wrong link in the original post:

THe correct link shall be:

Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bla...823?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3a7f52c077

Seller: 5191krzysztof

Item:
Vintage Black Leather Coach Court Bag Style 9870



Hyacinth said:
Unfortunately the seller's photos don't include clear pics of the creed patch and serial number. We almost always need those photos to authenticate since a lot of fakes have mistakes in the stamping but can look ok everywhere else.

If the seller can either post pics to the listing or send you readable photos of the creed and serial number we can take another look.
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Hyacinth said:
Since there's at least one more with the same manufacturing codes that seems ok, the chances are that yours is too. But it's a simple fact that sometimes older bags CAN'T be authenticated with 100 percent accuracy, and I say so up front if I'm not sure. There are NO records from that time period except what we can figure out from photos and that's not a completely dependable source. Comparing things like stitching and turnlocks often doesn't work, the fakes makers could buy the same hardware and hire leatherworkers with the same level of experience as the people who worked for Coach.

Many older bags were faked very well, and you just have to take your chances. And no, there's no one else who you can ask. Would you rather be told "I don't know" by someone who's honest about it and experienced in doing it, or be lied to by someone who thinks YKK zippers are a valid authentication tool and who wouldn't recognise a fake if the word was stamped all over the front in neon letters?
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Okay, so because this is an older bag and the creed code is kind of iffy, we can't really know for sure period. After everyone's help on this forum, I think I'm okay with living with this uncertainty =] Thanks for your replies Hyacinth, and I totally appreciate your honest opinion. It's just that I didn't know if posting additional things could help with the authentication. I would definitely rather be given a true opinion from an expert, and this is why I'm grateful for the replies that you've given me. Thank you again for helping me out!
 
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raichu_thunder said:
Okay, so because this is an older bag and the creed code is kind of iffy, we can't really know for sure period. After everyone's help on this forum, I think I'm okay with living with this uncertainty =] Thanks for your replies Hyacinth, and I totally appreciate your honest opinion. It's just that I didn't know if posting additional things could help with the authentication. I would definitely rather be given a true opinion from an expert, and this is why I'm grateful for the replies that you've given me. Thank you again for helping me out!
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The only time additional pictures help is if we know we have a genuine one for comparison, either as a photo series or as an actual bag someone here owns and can verify that it's genuine. Even then it's not unusual that all the details are right except for the creed stamp or serial number. All we can do then is hope that we know more about the correct details of the creed than the crooks do - and there's a LOT we still don't know for sure.

"I think I'm okay with living with this uncertainty..."
We ALL live with uncertainty. Everyone here myself included have found bags we bought years ago turn out to be fake when we went through and rechecked them. What we know about real and fake details always keeps changing as we get more photos for comparison.

Newer styles are actually a lot easier because there's a much bigger database and because details on newer bags are becoming a lot more alike. But it's usually the creeds and serial numbers where the crooks are still making the mistakes.
 
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LVaznGRL said:
Hi there,

I would love some authentication advice on these items!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BROWN-COACH...847?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3a7e75704f

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-BRITI...896?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item27d0bc8b48

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auth-Vintag...157?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item1e78472455

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auth-Vintag...615?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item257b3d95ff

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-COA...089?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item1e786cd481

Thank you for your time and effort!!!
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1. Authentic.
2. Authentic. Actually called a trail bag.
3. This one I'm not absolutely sure of because I'm not familiar with that plant. It's probably fine. Wait for Hyacinth for confirmation.
4. Authentic.
 
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