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#10,996
BeenBurned said:
The seller is mistaken. Based on the serial number on the creed, the bag is from 1999. D9 = April, 1999.

A bag from 1991 would have had a random serial number.

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/me...195.jpg~018_1337815182.jpg~030_1337815657.jpg
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Oh, I checked, and she did say 1999. It was my typing error. I just wanted to verify authenticity. So the front pocket seams and corners do look OK? Thanks for the help. I am new to doing this.

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/me...195.jpg~018_1337815182.jpg~030_1337815657.jpg
 
#10,997
Originally Posted by KittyKwilter It is the top corners of the inside front, and the way the pocket is joined. It is in this photo, you have to scroll down in original link, but this may work: I'll also include original link too below.

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/mem...1337815657.jpg


Original link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140758719484...84.m1438.l2649

Most have the pocket sewn in differently, and the side piping comes up straight. Maybe they are from earlier times. Anyway, the seller says it is from 1991.

KittyKwilter said:
Also, the serial no:

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/members/watch/enlarge.php

Thank you.
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If you're comparing it to other bags, please post the links of the bags you're comparing it to.
 
#10,998
Originally Posted by KittyKwilter It is the top corners of the inside front, and the way the pocket is joined. It is in this photo, you have to scroll down in original link, but this may work: I'll also include original link too below.

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/mem...1337815657.jpg


Original link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140758719484...84.m1438.l2649

Most have the pocket sewn in differently, and the side piping comes up straight. Maybe they are from earlier times. Anyway, the seller says it is from 1991.

KittyKwilter said:
Also, the serial no:

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/members/watch/enlarge.php

Thank you.
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Yes, I see what you mean. Give me a while to check the others posted for sale.

I'm looking for any others from the same plant. It looks like the right side on the one you bought may be more squared off than the left side. The position of the top of the back outside pocket and of the creed stamp also seem a bit off. Still checking...
 
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#10,999
Hyacinth said:
Originally Posted by KittyKwilter It is the top corners of the inside front, and the way the pocket is joined. It is in this photo, you have to scroll down in original link, but this may work: I'll also include original link too below.

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/mem...1337815657.jpg


Original link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140758719484...84.m1438.l2649

Most have the pocket sewn in differently, and the side piping comes up straight. Maybe they are from earlier times. Anyway, the seller says it is from 1991.



If you're comparing it to other bags, please post the links of the bags you're comparing it to.
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Hyacinth,

Here is a link to one of the others:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160807319197?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Item: Coach Black Navy Classic Court Bag
Listing number: I don't know
Seller: terrac
Link: Comments:

I don't know if it should look like this or like the one I posted.

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/me...195.jpg~018_1337815182.jpg~030_1337815657.jpg


Item: Coach Black Leather Classic Court Bag
Item No: (140758719484)
Seller: hmgallagher
 
#11,001
JessR2 said:
Hi gals,
I think this bag is authentic, but would love to get a definite from you all. It's from a local seller.
Item: Pink/Green/Khaki purse
Seller: local
Link: http://richmond.craigslist.org/clo/3043111146.html

Also here is a pic of the creed which I asked for :
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h461/JessR2photo/clcoachcreed.jpg

thanks very much!
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I can't get the creed picture to load but the pictures in the listing show an authentic bag. Make sure that the bag you receive is the same one. (Sometimes CL sellers "borrow" pictures from other sources.)
 
#11,002
Hyacinth said:
Originally Posted by KittyKwilter It is the top corners of the inside front, and the way the pocket is joined. It is in this photo, you have to scroll down in original link, but this may work: I'll also include original link too below.

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/mem...1337815657.jpg


Original link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140758719484...84.m1438.l2649

Most have the pocket sewn in differently, and the side piping comes up straight. Maybe they are from earlier times. Anyway, the seller says it is from 1991.



Yes, I see what you mean. Give me a while to check the others posted for sale.

I'm looking for any others from the same plant. It looks like the right side on the one you bought may be more squared off than the left side. The position of the top of the back outside pocket and of the creed stamp also seem a bit off. Still checking...
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Hyacinth, Here is another one that seems to have the same type corners.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Aut...641?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2ebeab10e9

Item: Vintage Authentic Coach Court Brown Bag J6D - 9870
Seller: le_franco_ricain
 
#11,003
KittyKwilter said:
Hyacinth, Here is another one that seems to have the same type corners.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Aut...641?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item2ebeab10e9

Item: Vintage Authentic Coach Court Brown Bag J6D - 9870
Seller: le_franco_ricain
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I left this one off, and I couldn't get it to edit. So here is one where you can see the same type corners really well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-VINTA...975?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3f179c7047

Vintage Coach Handbag
Seller: jdbass

And on the Coach site, the classics, it looks like the new ones may be like this also. I won't post any more pix. But I thot this would help.
 
#11,004
KittyKwilter said:
I left this one off, and I couldn't get it to edit. So here is one where you can see the same type corners really well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-VINTA...975?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3f179c7047

Vintage Coach Handbag
Seller: jdbass

And on the Coach site, the classics, it looks like the new ones may be like this also. I won't post any more pix. But I thot this would help.
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I think you may be right. There are other details that are slightly "off" but can be explained by variations between plants. But the way edges and piping like that are put together wouldn't change.

If you haven't already paid, don't. I want to check all the ones listed to see if there are any more with the same production codes.
 
#11,006
Item: Authentic Coach Kristin Satchel in teal/blue
Seller: julien_moana
Item number: 330738800181
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/33073880018...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_1156

I requested pics of the inside including S/N patch. I think I may be too new to post images, so I included the links too.

lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MJXkk1y5pGY/T8UFfp0zqVI/AAAAAAAAQBk/7pMfwTsojzc/s640/photo.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MJXkk1y5pGY/T8UFfp0zqVI/AAAAAAAAQBk/7pMfwTsojzc/s640/photo.JPG

lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gNtoXiRMQHc/T8UFfuH5ZnI/AAAAAAAAQBg/SRW-oLggpn0/s640/photo%2520%25281%2529.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gNtoXiRMQHc/T8UFfuH5ZnI/AAAAAAAAQBg/SRW-oLggpn0/s640/photo%2520%25281%2529.JPG
 
#11,007
KittyKwilter said:
I left this one off, and I couldn't get it to edit. So here is one where you can see the same type corners really well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-VINTA...975?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3f179c7047

Vintage Coach Handbag
Seller: jdbass

And on the Coach site, the classics, it looks like the new ones may be like this also. I won't post any more pix. But I thot this would help.
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Ok, I checked all the ones listed, and although there are several fakes 9870s listed, yours actually may be genuine.

First of all, the differences:
edging and piping at top of the underflap panel and underflap pocket is different
placement of the top of the back outside pocket is high
placement of the creed stamp is low and off-center
font of the serial number is vey large
sewing and padding of inside bottom doesn't quite match the others for sale

BUT
there are two others with the same kind of stitching and piping:

This gray one has the same problems with the top of the panel but the serial number & creed isn't readable. The creed is unusually puffy and that could mean it was made in China, or it's fake. Contrary to what some so-called authenticity guides claim, early Coaches from Chinese plants made in the early 2000s DID have puffy creeds, even some af the leather ones with stamps on the pockets instead of patches:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-VINTA...975?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3f179c7047

But this is the one that makes me feel yours may be genuine. Not only is it from the same plant, but the month and year code are different, it's a year older. Fakes makers almost never bother changing month & year codes, they just reuse the same exact number over and over. This one has the unusual stitching at the top:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-9870-...665?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item564a8a7e01

So while there's no way to be 100 percent sure, the same details on an apparently genuine bag make it less likely that the one you bought is fake. The G plant was a newer one and apparently wasn't open for very long, so their Quality Control wasn't at the same level as you would have expected from a plant where the employees had a lot more experience.
 
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#11,008
beausmom71 said:
hi again,
I am wondering about this one...

Item: brown purse
Listing number:
Seller:diddle47
Link:http://www.etsy.com/listing/9847802..._min=0&ga_max=0&ga_page=25&ga_search_type=all
Comments: I'm wondering if this an example of some of the "exceptions" that get spoken about regarding the month and plant codes.
thanks in advance.
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It's probably one of the exceptions. Newer plants in countries where English wasn't the main language seem to have had problems figuring out which month codes were supposed to be used.
 
#11,009
jls517 said:
Item: Authentic Coach Kristin Satchel in teal/blue
Seller: julien_moana
Item number: 330738800181
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/33073880018...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_1156

I requested pics of the inside including S/N patch. I think I may be too new to post images, so I included the links too.

lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MJXkk1y5pGY/T8UFfp0zqVI/AAAAAAAAQBk/7pMfwTsojzc/s640/photo.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MJXkk1y5pGY/T8UFfp0zqVI/AAAAAAAAQBk/7pMfwTsojzc/s640/photo.JPG

lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gNtoXiRMQHc/T8UFfuH5ZnI/AAAAAAAAQBg/SRW-oLggpn0/s640/photo%2520%25281%2529.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAQBg/SRW-oLggpn0/s640/photo%20%281%29.JPG
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It seems to be ok. Either Kristins aren't being faked, or they're being faked so well that we can't spot them.
 
#11,010
jls517 said:
Item: Authentic Coach Kristin Satchel in teal/blue
Seller: julien_moana
Item number: 330738800181
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/33073880018...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_1156

I requested pics of the inside including S/N patch. I think I may be too new to post images, so I included the links too.

lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MJXkk1y5pGY/T8UFfp0zqVI/AAAAAAAAQBk/7pMfwTsojzc/s640/photo.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MJXkk1y5pGY/T8UFfp0zqVI/AAAAAAAAQBk/7pMfwTsojzc/s640/photo.JPG

lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gNtoXiRMQHc/T8UFfuH5ZnI/AAAAAAAAQBg/SRW-oLggpn0/s640/photo%2520%25281%2529.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAQBg/SRW-oLggpn0/s640/photo%20%281%29.JPG
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It looks good to me.
 
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