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#10,967
evening ladies,
I would be interested in your learned opinions on the following:

Item: beige satchel style bag
Listing number: n/a
Seller: pineeyelo
Link:http:http://www.etsy.com/listing/99385725/tan-leather-coach-bag
Comments: I'm suspicious of the lack of serial numbers below creed...but that is why I am asking you ladies

Item: black station bag #5130
Listing number:
Seller:Ckshoppervintage
Link:http://www.facebook.com/CkshopperVintage
Comments: there is no shoulder strap, but I know I can order one ...

thank you in advance, hope you're all having a wonderful evening.
 
#10,968
beausmom71 said:
evening ladies,
I would be interested in your learned opinions on the following:

Item: beige satchel style bag
Listing number: n/a
Seller: pineeyelo
Link:http:http://www.etsy.com/listing/99385725/tan-leather-coach-bag
Comments: I'm suspicious of the lack of serial numbers below creed...but that is why I am asking you ladies

Item: black station bag #5130
Listing number:
Seller:Ckshoppervintage
Link:http://www.facebook.com/CkshopperVintage
Comments: there is no shoulder strap, but I know I can order one ...

thank you in advance, hope you're all having a wonderful evening.
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Did you ask the seller of the first one if there were any numbers below the creed that weren't showing in the photo? I think you should. And BTW, some very early Coaches didn't have serial numbers at all.

The second one looks ok.
 
#10,969
Hyacinth said:
Did you ask the seller of the first one if there were any numbers below the creed that weren't showing in the photo? I think you should. And BTW, some very early Coaches didn't have serial numbers at all.

The second one looks ok.
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I haven't asked, yet. I had wondered about the very early ones having numbers. AND, I remember what has been said here, maybe even by you, "the only thing consistent about Coach is their inconsistency". I will ask and re-post my authentication query. However, if she says there are no numbers below what say you then?
Thanks for the ok on the second one.
have a great night.
 
#10,971
beausmom71 said:
I haven't asked, yet. I had wondered about the very early ones having numbers. AND, I remember what has been said here, maybe even by you, "the only thing consistent about Coach is their inconsistency". I will ask and re-post my authentication query. However, if she says there are no numbers below what say you then?
Thanks for the ok on the second one.
have a great night.
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The first one is a fake. Coach NEVER makes their hangtags look that sloppy.
 
#10,972
xoluvinyooxo said:
Coach Carly KE-10620. Was given to me as a gift. Is it real? I did some research online and it has all the signs of being authentic right down to the YKK zippers. Please help!!
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It's a terrible fake.

Please remove from your mind (and your bookmarks) any of the authenticity guides you've been reading. Most are full of misinformation, either obsolete, incomplete and much of it, downright WRONG!

In fact, your comment about YKK zippers is a fallacy. Although Coach uses YKK zippers, they also use other brands of zippers. Plus, even the fakes have made fake YKK zippers because they've read the same boloney guides that permeate the internet.

Zipper brand has NOTHING to do with authenticity.

Here are some accurate and frequently updated guides to study. These are worth bookmarking.

Creeds: http://reviews.ebay.com/Coach-Creeds-the-Basic-Facts?ugid=10000000030821024

 
#10,973
Hyacinth said:
All the nonsense she spouts is COMPLETELY wrong. Dorcelle had no connection with either Coach OR Cashin - as if she would have copied her styles made for one company with another! Sheesh, I wonder if she thinks that's the way everyone does business! All she had to do was check the Cashin Foundation website for a list of the companies BC worked for.
http://www.bonniecashinfoundation.org/dc.cfm

Just to put one of the bits of BS to rest, and this has been mentioned many times here at tPF already by several posters - the "B" on the hinge of older styles has NOTHING to do with Bonnie Cashin - it stands for Branson Manufacturing who made many of the kisslocks, frames and hinges. Many of the bags she calls "Bonnie cashin" are NOT. She's blabbing that because they have fabric linings, a kisslock and a B on the hinge that means they're Cashin designs and NONE of those statements is true.

I sent her a pretty angry message but I doubt if she'll change anything. In the meantime, because of the BS and misinformation in her listings, I strongly suggest that none of our members buy from " E-MSELLING "

http://www.ebay.com/sch/e-mselling/...=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562

To emphasize the point - NEVER believe a seller's claims about who designed what or how rare or valuable something is. ALWAYS ASK HERE BEFORE BIDDING.
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OK to her credit she listened to you. She changed the wording on two of her listings and took down the Dorcelle bag.
 
#10,974
beausmom71 said:
evening ladies,
I would be interested in your learned opinions on the following:

Item: beige satchel style bag
Listing number: n/a
Seller: pineeyelo
Link:http:http://www.etsy.com/listing/99385725/tan-leather-coach-bag
Comments: I'm suspicious of the lack of serial numbers below creed...but that is why I am asking you ladies

thank you in advance, hope you're all having a wonderful evening.
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Hyacinth said:
Did you ask the seller of the first one if there were any numbers below the creed that weren't showing in the photo? I think you should. And BTW, some very early Coaches didn't have serial numbers at all.

The second one looks ok.
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xoluvinyooxo said:
The first one is a fake. Coach NEVER makes their hangtags look that sloppy.
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xoluvinyooxo,

At this point, there's nothing to indicate that the bag is fake. Over the years, Coach has made different types of hangtags and this is one of the types they made.

It's unfair to sellers (of the items) as well as to TPF members when you make blanket statements that have no basis in fact.
 
#10,975
BeenBurned said:
It's a terrible fake.

Please remove from your mind (and your bookmarks) any of the authenticity guides you've been reading. Most are full of misinformation, either obsolete, incomplete and much of it, downright WRONG!

In fact, your comment about YKK zippers is a fallacy. Although Coach uses YKK zippers, they also use other brands of zippers. Plus, even the fakes have made fake YKK zippers because they've read the same boloney guides that permeate the internet.

Zipper brand has NOTHING to do with authenticity.

Here are some accurate and frequently updated guides to study. These are worth bookmarking.

Creeds: http://reviews.ebay.com/Coach-Creeds-the-Basic-Facts?ugid=10000000030821024

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ok thanks for your help
 
#10,976
beausmom71 said:
I haven't asked, yet. I had wondered about the very early ones having numbers. AND, I remember what has been said here, maybe even by you, "the only thing consistent about Coach is their inconsistency". I will ask and re-post my authentication query. However, if she says there are no numbers below what say you then?
Thanks for the ok on the second one.
have a great night.
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You might also ask for a photo showing a bit more of the area under the creed, at least another inch. Sometimes the answer is there.
 
#10,977
xoluvinyooxo said:
Coach Carly KE-10620. Was given to me as a gift. Is it real? I did some research online and it has all the signs of being authentic right down to the YKK zippers. Please help!!
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Yep, it's a complete mess. The serial number is fake and the C pattern is totally misaligned. As BeenBurned said, you're doing your research in all the wrong places.

BTW, we always need to see clear READABLE photos of the creed patch or stamp and the serial number to authenticate a Coach. We also need to see pics of all the hardware that have "Coach" stamped on it since many of those stamps don't belong there. My guess is that at least the large O rings around the strap and every turnlock on yours probably has a Coach stamp. And some clueless idiot's so-called "guide" you found on the Internet said it was supposed to be that way, didn't it?
 
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#10,978
beausmom71 said:
evening ladies,
I would be interested in your learned opinions on the following:

Item: beige satchel style bag
Listing number: n/a
Seller: pineeyelo
Link:http:http://www.etsy.com/listing/99385725/tan-leather-coach-bag
Comments: I'm suspicious of the lack of serial numbers below creed...but that is why I am asking you ladies

Item: black station bag #5130
Listing number:
Seller:Ckshoppervintage
Link:http://www.facebook.com/CkshopperVintage
Comments: there is no shoulder strap, but I know I can order one ...

thank you in advance, hope you're all having a wonderful evening.
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BTW, before we get any more incorrect opinions on these two bags, BOTH ARE GENUINE. I'm trying to point out that "rules" seldom apply to Coaches, especially early ones, and that what appears in someone's photograph isn't necessarily everything that it seems to be. When something isn't as you expect it, maybe it's the fault of the photographer and not the bag.

And the hangtag is COMPLETELY genuine. That's how Coach made them back then.

Anyone who hasn't read the Ebay Guides posted by Salearea that BeenBurned listed and linked to, please read them now before you ask about, buy or sell another Coach bag, especially older and vintage styles.
 
#10,980
I recently bought 2 inexpensive bags with the intention of using them to practice rehabbing. First, though, I'd like to know if they're real or fake. That will determine how much I "experiment" on them. They are both in my possession. Here are links to the Photobucket albums containing pictures I took:

Bag #1:

http://s1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg481/AmbersAunt/Coach%20Purse%20Authentication%201/

Bag #2:

http://s1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg481/AmbersAunt/Coach%20Purse%20Authentication%202/

Thank you very much!
 
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