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katev said:
Thanks for posting these guides, they are terrifically helpful!

I recently rehabbed a navy Tribecca convertible clutch. The bag was authenticated here on TPF and I have no doubt that it is genuine; but the hangtag is very suspect. The stamped coach lozenge is markedly crooked on both sides! I know that creeds are sometimes sloppy and tilted in older bags, and have seen seen a few hangtags that look a little weird, but this one is really off. I have wondered if it was a fake replacement hangtag; have you seen vintage coach bags with badly aligned markings on genuine hangtags?

Here is the link for the rehab pics, and below is a photo that shows the hangtag, but I didn't take closeups of the tag and I don't think that the picture looks as odd as it really is.

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/forget-lexol-apple-desperate-situations-use-leather-cpr-693808.html

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I've seen some others that have been a bit crooked. Hard to say if yours is original to the bag or not, since so many hangtags ended up getting lost and replaced. And the late 90s was a time when Quality Control took a vacation, since I think many employees who found out they would soon be losing their jobs to cheap Chinese labor stopped caring about making things correctly. And who can blame them?
 
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Hyacinth said:
I've seen some others that have been a bit crooked. Hard to say if yours is original to the bag or not, since so many hangtags ended up getting lost and replaced. And the late 90s was a time when Quality Control took a vacation, since I think many employees who found out they would soon be losing their jobs to cheap Chinese labor stopped caring about making things correctly. And who can blame them?
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Thanks, I am thinking of getting a replacement for it, maybe a goldtone tag; because I am afraid that the crooked hangtag makes the bag look fake.
 
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It was really hard to photograph the creed inside a small, black purse but this is the best I could do. This is definitely genuine leather, smells of genuine leather. Has "overstamping" marks above the serial number.
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Please let me know if any more photos are needed on this one. I found it at a yard sale and I would like to sell it online if genuine.
 
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I just found this older looking coach tote and i need help. Is it real or fake? Some things look a little off to me but then some look authentic. My mind is boggled right now and I'm starting to confuse myself. Please anyone, PLEASE help me.......

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moyas2005 said:
I just found this older looking coach tote and i need help. Is it real or fake? Some things look a little off to me but then some look authentic. My mind is boggled right now and I'm starting to confuse myself. Please anyone, PLEASE help me.......

**Oh this is my first post, i'm hoping these pics show up properly**
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First of all, tell us what you think looks fake. And please understand, if you're not familiar with older bags from 7 or 8 years ago like this one, you CAN'T compare them to newer styles, they're not going to be the same at all. And if you're judging any Coach based on some online Authenticity Guide, almost every one ever posted anyplace on the 'net is either partly or completely wrong.
 
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CoachCatcher45 said:
Item: tan beige belted coach bag
item number:180712513515
seller: bubbleracer
link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tan-Beige-B...WH_Handbags&hash=item2a134e1feb#ht_500wt_1214
comments: this looks real cheap to me and it just looks off. i want it authenticated before i report it
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It looks cheap, but it's genuine.
http://www.ebay.com/dsc/i.html?_nkw...sct=&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

Always check Ebay for similar styles before reporting anything, especially when it has a valid-looking creed. And as I've said before, just because you haven't seen a certain style before, or you don't like the way it looks, or can't find it on Google, or you don't like it, or think that "Coach couldn't possibly have made something that ugly", that doesn't mean it's fake.
 
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CoachCatcher45 said:
Item: tan beige belted coach bag
item number:180712513515
seller: bubbleracer
link:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tan-Beige-B...WH_Handbags&hash=item2a134e1feb#ht_500wt_1214
comments: this looks real cheap to me and it just looks off. i want it authenticated before i report it
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I don't see any problems. The "cheapness" you refer to is probably just the inherent nature of the optic signature pattern. The optic pattern is designed to be uneven and overlapping, often causing it to be mistaken for being fake.
 
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moyas2005 said:
I just found this older looking coach tote and i need help. Is it real or fake? Some things look a little off to me but then some look authentic. My mind is boggled right now and I'm starting to confuse myself. Please anyone, PLEASE help me.......

**Oh this is my first post, i'm hoping these pics show up properly**
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It looks fine.
 
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moyas2005 said:
I just found this older looking coach tote and i need help. Is it real or fake? Some things look a little off to me but then some look authentic. My mind is boggled right now and I'm starting to confuse myself. Please anyone, PLEASE help me.......

**Oh this is my first post, i'm hoping these pics show up properly**
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I want to bring up something that there's still some disagreement on - not for the poster who asked but just as general information.

Every "authenticity guide" including one of the very few reasonably accurate ones by an actual Coach expert says that Coach has never made bags in Thailand. Ever since I looked at the first photos of bags with Thai creeds several years ago I've doubted that statement, and I've mentioned Thailand as a probable place of manufacture many times in my posts and Guides.

These photos are a good example. The Thai creeds that I believe to be genuine usually have L or R plants codes, neither of which was ever legitimately used by any other plant that I've found, and they all state Thailand to be the country of manufacture. A fakes maker would have used a USA or even a China creed and plant code to make their fakes look more genuine.

The Thai bags seem to be limited to a dozen or so from the Travel and Business line, the creeds that I've seen are all valid for the styles and construction of the bags they're in, and the details on all the bags are absolutely correct. I HAVE seen one or two fakes with Thai creeds but they're OBVIOUS fakes and have a lot more wrong with them than just the creeds.

The Coach expert who believes that Thai Coach bags don't exist got her information from someone at Coach, who also told her that Coach DID make bags in Korea. Now since every Korean-stamped bag we've ever seen is fake, and almost every Thai-stamped bag I've ever seen looks genuine, I've got to believe that once again some horse's patoot at Coach got things completely wrong. I think the Thai plant only operated for a few years since the only creeds I've found have been dated between 2000 and 2003. It's probably a safe guess that Coach decided that producing those styles in China was much cheaper and closed the Thai plant as quietly as they'd opened it.

There's one final indicator in the photos that Moyas2005 posted. And while we all know (I hope) that anything a maker can make, a faker can fake, a really accurate outlet bullet stamp especially one in an 8-year old bag is almost unheard-of. The stamp doesn't and can't prove the bag's genuine, but the odds of that stamp being real are pretty strong.

Maybe now I won't be the only person who believes it. ;)
 
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