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Hyacinth said:
Except that the Bean Bag paperweight wasn't even introduced until 1990, NOT the 1970s. The Keyfob came out several years later. And the ONLY items other than fake handbags I or any other of the highly experienced authenticators both here and in the last six years on Ebay have EVER seen, are the paperweight and the keyfob. Coach doesn't "accidently" use a bogus stamp on hundreds if not thousands of bags without SOMEONE noticing. Even bags that have a stamping or style number mistake are either destroyed, sold to employees, or sent to the outlets.

The format of the Bean Bag creed stamp itself ONLY fits the late 80s-early 90s because of the way the LOCATION OF THE PLANT is stated. Anything stamped in the 1970s would simply have said "Made in New York City USA" which Coach used EXCLUSIVELY until 1987. "Made in the United States" wasn't used or even thought of being used until 1988 when Coach opened a second plant NOT in NYC.

If she'd like to come here and discuss dates with me, she may want to read the Salearea Guides first, the dates there for these stamping and formatting changes have been very thoroughly researched..
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Hyacinth, I know she was just making an excuse. First she said Coach did make Bean Bags and then she changed her story to Coach making a mistake of labeling bags as Bean Bags.

Once I shared the information that you gave she stopped being defensive altogether and simply is allowing me to return the bag ( I hope she destroys it which is the right thing to do).
It does drive me nuts, with as little as I know but as much as I have learned, to have someone like that seller tell me things that I know aren't true. And knowing all the experience and hard work that you and the other authenticators do and have done over many years, it irks me even more that a person would come out and say things without having what they say backed up.

I did give her your entire quote along with salearea's guides. I've actually forwarded all of the guides to quite a few people. They are excellent resources. I just hope that this seller cares enough to do the research and learn something before she lists another Coach bag.

Again, thank you so much for all of your hard work and help.
 
#10,758
2011vintage said:
Hyacinth, I know she was just making an excuse. First she said Coach did make Bean Bags and then she changed her story to Coach making a mistake of labeling bags as Bean Bags.

Once I shared the information that you gave she stopped being defensive altogether and simply is allowing me to return the bag ( I hope she destroys it which is the right thing to do).
It does drive me nuts, with as little as I know but as much as I have learned, to have someone like that seller tell me things that I know aren't true. And knowing all the experience and hard work that you and the other authenticators do and have done over many years, it irks me even more that a person would come out and say things without having what they say backed up.

I did give her your entire quote along with salearea's guides. I've actually forwarded all of the guides to quite a few people. They are excellent resources. I just hope that this seller cares enough to do the research and learn something before she lists another Coach bag.

Again, thank you so much for all of your hard work and help.
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And thanks for your patience! It really frustrates me when someone either quotes something they vaguely remember reading on the Internet, or like in this case, tries to BS her way through a subject she doesn't know anything about. And thanks for passing on the Guides, Salearea and I both appreciate it! :smile1:
 
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Link: https://www.etsy.com/transaction/81658725
Pictures included at link

So I have already purchased this bag, but it doesn't really suit my needs so I had planned on reselling it. However, I'd like to know whether or not the bag is authentic before I try to sell it - if not I will go back to the seller and see if I can return it.

The photos include a close up of the creed with serial number. The thing that specifically makes me question the authenticity can be seen in the fourth picture down - the binding seam is off center and the stitching on the binding is crooked. The only thing that isn't clearly pictured is the hangtag, which is centered and looks the way I'd expect it to look.

If anyone has an opinion on a this vintage Coach bag, I'd be very grateful!
 
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pls help me authenticate these thank you!

1. item:COACH "City" L8P-9790 Costa Rica made Tan Leather crossbody bag purse
seller:bambam2681
listing:330735840672
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/33073584067...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_556wt_1378

2. item: NORESERVE COACH WILLIS HANDBAG MESSENGER BRITISH TAN LEATHER w POCKETS BRIEFCASE
seller:renee1victor3
listing:261024302337
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/26102430233...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_3934wt_1378

3. item: COACH AUTH SADDLE TAN LEATHER WILLIS CONVERTIBLE SHOULDER BAG-PRE-OWNED, GREAT!

seller:sooz-e-q
listing: 280885310135
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/28088531013...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1719wt_1378
 
#10,763
Hyacinth said:
And thanks for your patience! It really frustrates me when someone either quotes something they vaguely remember reading on the Internet, or like in this case, tries to BS her way through a subject she doesn't know anything about. And thanks for passing on the Guides, Salearea and I both appreciate it! :smile1:
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You are very welcome. I'll continue to forward the guides to others. I have salearea's guide page marked as an "app" on my iPhone so it's easy to reference or to open up to grab the link and share:)

I very much understand your frustration with people
who try to BS their way through subjects they know nothing about. Their BS takes on all kinds of directions when they find out they may be dealing with someone who actually knows about the subject. It doesn't take long before they simply stop trying when they realize that they are fighting a losing battle with no ground to stand on.
 
#10,765
jfzmwz said:
pls help me authenticate these thank you!

1. item:COACH "City" L8P-9790 Costa Rica made Tan Leather crossbody bag purse
seller:bambam2681
listing:330735840672
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/33073584067...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_556wt_1378

2. item: NORESERVE COACH WILLIS HANDBAG MESSENGER BRITISH TAN LEATHER w POCKETS BRIEFCASE
seller:renee1victor3
listing:261024302337
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/26102430233...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_3934wt_1378

3. item: COACH AUTH SADDLE TAN LEATHER WILLIS CONVERTIBLE SHOULDER BAG-PRE-OWNED, GREAT!

seller:sooz-e-q
listing: 280885310135
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/28088531013...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1719wt_1378
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The first and second look ok. I'm a little less sure of the third since the creed photo isn't clear and the turnlock area looks a bit different, but it may just be due to wear or the angle of the photograph, there don't seem to be any other problems..
 
#10,766
shayelea said:
Link: https://www.etsy.com/transaction/81658725
Pictures included at link

So I have already purchased this bag, but it doesn't really suit my needs so I had planned on reselling it. However, I'd like to know whether or not the bag is authentic before I try to sell it - if not I will go back to the seller and see if I can return it.

The photos include a close up of the creed with serial number. The thing that specifically makes me question the authenticity can be seen in the fourth picture down - the binding seam is off center and the stitching on the binding is crooked. The only thing that isn't clearly pictured is the hangtag, which is centered and looks the way I'd expect it to look.

If anyone has an opinion on a this vintage Coach bag, I'd be very grateful!
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The binding isn't a problem. Very few Coach bags, even early ones, were perfect. The bag isn't from the early 70s though so please be sure to date it correctly if you sell it - it's a City Bag style 9790 made right around 1986-87. Still vintage but not 40 years old!
 
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