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Hyacinth said:
It's fine. Coach has made bags in almost a dozen countries, including Italy. Although almost 100 percent of their bags and accessories are currently made in China, India and Vietnam, they still do a handful of their very expensive exotic leather bags in Italy.

BTW, this is called a Vachetta Demi Pouch and is a very small bag, only about 6x5 inches. I hope that's what you were looking for. You should always ask for measurements if the seller doesn't have them in the listing.

Oh, and NEVER trust that something's genuine based on what the seller says or claims. Sellers can and do LIE, especially when they're selling a fake.
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Thanks so much. I feel a lot better. I asked for the size. It is for that size I fall in love with it. I want to use it as wristlet. The seller said the sling can be detached and go on the same side. You make my day.
 
#13,368
Nataliemai said:
It is scary to see there are that many fake bags on ebay.

Frustrating with biding, I just go for buy it now and bought this bag. It looks ok to me (well just like a lot of fake one look ok to me). It it the seller's description gave me more confident: All of my items are authentic since I only buy authentic items. But after reading the creed in greater detail (it said it is made in Italy), I kind of worry. Would you please help me to authenticate it (I want the peace of mind)? Thank you so much.

Item: Coach bag
Listing number: 320669779878
Seller: pikake2010
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320669779878&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Enjoy your authentic bag!
 
#13,370
Hyacinth said:
It's strictly due to when the bag was made. Coach used Talon zippers on many of their older bags along with a few other brands but gradually started switching over to mostly YKK. The brown bag has the "industrial-style" zipper that they used a lot during the 70s and 80s with the heavier pull and the blue-black fabric edging. Once in a while they'll still use non-YKK zippers on a few of their new bags. But all those bogus "Guides" claiming that Coach ONLY uses YKK zippers are 100 percent wrong.

Early hangtags were usually 2 separate tags that were glued together and often came apart, but Coach has also used thicker single-sided hangtags in a lot of different designs. There have been literally dozens of different hangtag styles over the years. And remember too that a lot of hangtags may not be original to that particular bag since a lot of people used them as keychains or just took them off and lost them. Quite a few hangtags on older bags are replacements.
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Thank you. I couldn't find that information anywhere. Y'all are priceless!!!
 
#13,371
CelticLuv said:
these were missed from last Friday. please let me know, thank you!!!

1. Item: 100% Authentic Coach Madison embossed python bag (16354
Item #: 260758335384
Seller: mr.17917
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

2. Item: Gathered Leather Sophia Madison Lrg Bag 15947
Item #: 250794414597
Seller: isoldit.co0273
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/COACH-Blk-Gathe...597?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item3a64831205

3. Item: RareNEW~COACH MADISON GATHERED LEATHER SOPHIA Bag 15942
Item #: 230599389128
Seller: a_lawyer_4u
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/RareNEW-COACH-M...128?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item35b0cb6fc8

4. Item: PYTHON MADISON SOPHIA BAG TOTE PURPLE 15928 NWT
Item #: 140528626608
Seller: redsoloshopper
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/COACH-PYTHON-MAD...ht_1195wt_1139
the Coach tag definitely looks "off" to me, considering it's also slanted.

thank you!
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1. Please request a clear picture of the creed. The serial number doesn't appear to be the number that the seller uses for the style in the title.

2. Looks okay.

3. Although some of the pictures look okay, I don't recommend this seller. All her listings use several stock pictures that were stolen from Coach. If the seller owns a camera and takes pictures (as she does), there's no reason for using others' copyrighted work.

4. Looks okay pending pictures of the creed, hangtags and head-on closeup of the horse and carriage plaque.
 
#13,372
Hyacinth said:
It's strictly due to when the bag was made. Coach used Talon zippers on many of their older bags along with a few other brands but gradually started switching over to mostly YKK. The brown bag has the "industrial-style" zipper that they used a lot during the 70s and 80s with the heavier pull and the blue-black fabric edging. Once in a while they'll still use non-YKK zippers on a few of their new bags. But all those bogus "Guides" claiming that Coach ONLY uses YKK zippers are 100 percent wrong.

Early hangtags were usually 2 separate tags that were glued together and often came apart, but Coach has also used thicker single-sided hangtags in a lot of different designs. There have been literally dozens of different hangtag styles over the years. And remember too that a lot of hangtags may not be original to that particular bag since a lot of people used them as keychains or just took them off and lost them. Quite a few hangtags on older bags are replacements.
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Interesting discussion! I just pulled out the British Tan Basic Bag that I've recently purchased as my next rehab project and compared it to the Gray Basic Bag that I rehabbed a few months ago.

I think that the BT bag may be a little older. It has a larger, heavier zipper and the pull is clearly marked TALON. Although the gray bag also has a heavy-duty zipper, it is a bit smaller and rounder than the TALON but the ring pull is a bit larger. I cannot see any markings on the gray bag's zipper but perhaps they have worn away.

They both have hangtags that are unfinished on one side. The british tan bag's creed says "Made in New York City, U.S.A." and the gray bag says "Made in U.S.A."

I agree that you can't judge a bag by the hangtag, because I have added replacement hangtags to several of my rehabbed bags; but I tend to associate the one-sided hangtags with the older NYC and USA bags.

I currently have 4 City Bags in my possesion (I really have to stop buying rehab projects and/or do something with my vintage collection!)

Red City Bag: made in 1992 in Costa Rica, the hangtag is finished on both sides. The inner pocket has a small, brass YKK zipper pull and the zipper has plastic threads.

Black City Bag #2: Made in Turkey in 1996, the hangtag is finished on both sides. The inner pocket has a larger, brass YKK zipper pull and the zipper has brass threads.

Black City Bag #1: Made in the United States circa 1980s, it has a replacement hangtag and a larger YKK brass zipper pull and brass zipper threads.

British Tan City Bag: Made in the United States circa 1980s, the hangtag is finished on 1 side only. It has a slightly smaller YKK brass zipper pull and threads.

The leather on the US made bags feels thicker!
 
#13,374
Shortthiing_Jen said:
Item:PRE-OWNED COACH MADISON BLACK WOMENS PURSE (NO RESERVE)....... Sabrina
Listing number: 140526506771
Seller: pvt4210
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140526506771&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Comments: seller says its a knock off she has the original price tag and care card is she mistaken or is this a knock off?
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There are some really "good" fake Sabrina bags so I certainly would wait for other opinions before buying.

But based on what I can see, I don't see red flags. If authentic, it appears to be missing one of the hangtags.

Authentic or not though, seller cannot disclaim authenticity!
 
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Item: NWT Coach Madison OP ART Dot Sophia Bag,Silver # 15935
Listing number: 320672187415
Seller: bidyouagoodday
Link: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320672187415&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:CA:1123
Comments:
This is the serial number

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#13,377
Hello, i am a new member, i just bought a coach court bag from ebay(EUC), i have just received the bag today. the bag is in really good condition, very soft genuine leather with YKK zip inside. the serial number: J6D-9870. I can't believe this is an used court bag since 90's.. especially the hand tag..it looks like fake.. Anyway..since i am not so familiar with the original line coach. Could anyone tell me the one is an authentic coach court bag or fake? Have a great day:smile1:
The ebay member's original posted pics: http://ag.gotdns.org/ebay/Coach_9870/
The hand tag pics that i just took: http://s861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/viviancheou/previews/
 
#13,378
Item: Coach Ivory Leather Court Bag 9870 EUC
Listing number: 260754128904
Seller: monisings
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...witem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_836wt_1141
The ebay seller's original posted pics: http://ag.gotdns.org/ebay/Coach_9870/
The hand tag pics that i just took: http://s861.photobucket.com/albums/a...heou/previews/
Comments:
Hello, i am a new member, i just bought a coach court bag from ebay(EUC), i have just received the bag today. the bag is in really good condition, very soft genuine leather with YKK zip inside. the serial number: J6D-9870. I can't believe this is an used court bag since 90's.. especially the hand tag..it looks like fake.. Anyway..since i am not so familiar with the original line coach. Could anyone tell me the one is an authentic coach court bag or fake? Have a great day:smile1:
 
#13,379
katev said:
Interesting discussion! I just pulled out the British Tan Basic Bag that I've recently purchased as my next rehab project and compared it to the Gray Basic Bag that I rehabbed a few months ago.

I think that the BT bag may be a little older. It has a larger, heavier zipper and the pull is clearly marked TALON. Although the gray bag also has a heavy-duty zipper, it is a bit smaller and rounder than the TALON but the ring pull is a bit larger. I cannot see any markings on the gray bag's zipper but perhaps they have worn away.

They both have hangtags that are unfinished on one side. The british tan bag's creed says "Made in New York City, U.S.A." and the gray bag says "Made in U.S.A."

I agree that you can't judge a bag by the hangtag, because I have added replacement hangtags to several of my rehabbed bags; but I tend to associate the one-sided hangtags with the older NYC and USA bags.

I currently have 4 City Bags in my possesion (I really have to stop buying rehab projects and/or do something with my vintage collection!)

Red City Bag: made in 1992 in Costa Rica, the hangtag is finished on both sides. The inner pocket has a small, brass YKK zipper pull and the zipper has plastic threads.

Black City Bag #2: Made in Turkey in 1996, the hangtag is finished on both sides. The inner pocket has a larger, brass YKK zipper pull and the zipper has brass threads.

Black City Bag #1: Made in the United States circa 1980s, it has a replacement hangtag and a larger YKK brass zipper pull and brass zipper threads.

British Tan City Bag: Made in the United States circa 1980s, the hangtag is finished on 1 side only. It has a slightly smaller YKK brass zipper pull and threads.

The leather on the US made bags feels thicker!
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More proof that, contrary to what all those "authenticity Guides" say, Coach DID change things like zipper and hangtag designs, and Coach DOES sometimes use plastic zippers, and that Coaches don't always have YKK zippers, and that there's no such thing as One Rule Fits All. :smile1:

I agree about the thicker leather on the US bags. It's really noticeable when you compare one of the recent Chinese-made "classics" to the old ones from 20 years ago. There's just no comparison.
 
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