Authenticate this COACH

[lindadada]

Hello everyone,
please help me authenticate this vintage coach bag. The seller said its a baxtor speedy bag. The photos that are provided are in the link below. They are kinda blurry...:S

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/members/watch/enlarge.php

Thanks in advance!

update: the seller has taken the photos off. I just uploaded them. Thanks again.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello everyone,
please help me authenticate this vintage coach bag. The seller said its a baxtor speedy bag. The photos that are provided are in the link below. They are kinda blurry...:S

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/members/watch/enlarge.php

Thanks in advance!

The pictures don't show; says it's been removed.

Please post in the format requested here: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-577470.html#post14912099

Edited to add that I see you posted pictures.

We need to see the listing.

 

[1983.alegna]

Looking at the pictures I've uploaded, I can see that the camera (wide-angled) did not really capture the lopsidedness of the creed and the center stitching at the back of the strap loop. I will try to take some more pics. Thank you so much for your comments!

 

[BeenBurned]

Looking at the pictures I've uploaded, I can see that the camera (wide-angled) did not really capture the lopsidedness of the creed and the center stitching at the back of the strap loop. I will try to take some more pics. Thank you so much for your comments!

I saw all the pictures - every last one of them - and I don't see any problems with the bag as far as authenticity.

 

[BeenBurned]

Here are several items I've noticed that are kinda off:
1. crooked stitching on some parts of the bag
2. the creed patch is not centered
3. also on the creed: there is no space bet the words 'reflect' and 'our'
4. glue and paint residue near the stitches
5. the lozenge logo on the buckle was not stamped well
6. the loop on the strap is poorly made
6. hangtag: poor stitching, esp on the back

1. This is Coach, not LV, Hermes or another more exclusive brand. The stitching is as straight as it generally is.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by #2. Do you mean that there's not the same amount of space between the stitching at the top of the creed patch and the text as there is at the bottom of the patch to the border of the text? I've attached a picture of a bag I own showing the difference in the spacing. It's a different style bag but I think it shows the "uncentered creed" you refer to. (see below)
3. I think the run-on words (in this case) is a glitch that occurs occasionally
4. Happens occasionally. This is a 7-year old used bag. Some of the leather is worn and the underside is showing through.
5. Lozenge on buckle looks right.
6. Loop on strap looks exactly like it looks on my bag. The intention of the loop is just to hold the strap together when it's doubled (shorter length) and one side of the loop has a center row of stitching.
7. Back of hangtag isn't always as neat as front.

 

[lindadada]

I've decided not to get the bag anymore and save up for a better bag . I think I was being too hasty. I'm sorry for the wrong format, thanks very much for responding to my request BeenBurned! I appreciate it.

 

[ilovecoach11]

Item: Coach wallet
Listing number:1329682
Seller: roe2457
Link: http://www.listia.com/auction/1329682
Comments: I would appreciate any help with this one to see if my gut feeling is accurate.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello everyone,
please help me authenticate this vintage coach bag. The seller said its a baxtor speedy bag. The photos that are provided are in the link below. They are kinda blurry...:S

http://app2.sellersourcebook.com/members/watch/enlarge.php

Thanks in advance!

update: the seller has taken the photos off. I just uploaded them. Thanks again.

The pictures don't show; says it's been removed.

Please post in the format requested here: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-577470.html#post14912099

Edited to add that I see you posted pictures.

We need to see the listing.

I've decided not to get the bag anymore and save up for a better bag . I think I was being too hasty. I'm sorry for the wrong format, thanks very much for responding to my request BeenBurned! I appreciate it.

I didn't help much. Classic leather bags aren't my specialty; you'll have to wait for Hyacinth or DemRam or authentication.

But in the future, if you post, please use that format because it's helpful in future searches for sellers and items. It's helpful to see a seller's other lisitngs too.

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach wallet
Listing number:1329682
Seller: roe2457
Link: http://www.listia.com/auction/1329682
Comments: I would appreciate any help with this one to see if my gut feeling is accurate.

I'm sorry but that wallet is fake.

You're the second seller in less than a week who has come here with a fake that came from Listia.

If there's a report function on that site, please use it. If not, perhaps it's an improvement that should be added.

Seller roe2457 isn't honest. She states that the wallet came from a department store. There's NO WAY this came from any legitimate department store and I believe she knows it.
In fact, she claims her listing was flagged and reported already.

 

[Hyacinth]

1. This is Coach, not LV, Hermes or another more exclusive brand. The stitching is as straight as it generally is.
2. I'm not sure what you mean by #2. Do you mean that there's not the same amount of space between the stitching at the top of the creed patch and the text as there is at the bottom of the patch to the border of the text? I've attached a picture of a bag I own showing the difference in the spacing. It's a different style bag but I think it shows the "uncentered creed" you refer to. (see below)
3. I think the run-on words (in this case) is a glitch that occurs occasionally
4. Happens occasionally. This is a 7-year old used bag. Some of the leather is worn and the underside is showing through.
5. Lozenge on buckle looks right.
6. Loop on strap looks exactly like it looks on my bag. The intention of the loop is just to hold the strap together when it's doubled (shorter length) and one side of the loop has a center row of stitching.
7. Back of hangtag isn't always as neat as front.

Now that I can see the entire creed, there IS a red flag. Either there was a mistake at the plant and the bag is genuine, or the fakers have finally managed to copy the outlet mark perfectly and it's fake. But the plant code is wrong.

I had one of those but donated it last year so there's nothing I can compare it to. But I'm going to take a look at the rest of those photos and see if anything else jumps out at me. The creed stamping looks authentic but the mistake shouldn't be there - it's not one of those "they must not have read the memo" kinds of mistake. Of course it's always possible that it was sent to the outlets because of the mistake - that's happened a lot. As BB said, Coaches are never perfect, stitching or anything else, so that's not a valid reason to think something's fake. And the creed looks fine except for one little thing.

 

[ilovecoach11]

I'm sorry but that wallet is fake.

You're the second seller in less than a week who has come here with a fake that came from Listia.

If there's a report function on that site, please use it. If not, perhaps it's an improvement that should be added.

I've reported and it has been removed once. The seller has relisted and is now claiming she bought it at a "department store" so Listia is apparently accepting that as proof that it's authentic. I was 99% sure it was fake but started seriously questioning myself after so many people placed bids and posted positive comments. Thank you so much!

 

[BeenBurned]

Now that I can see the entire creed, there IS a red flag. Either there was a mistake at the plant and the bag is genuine, or the fakers have finally managed to copy the outlet mark perfectly and it's fake. But the plant code is wrong.

I had one of those but donated it last year so there's nothing I can compare it to. But I'm going to take a look at the rest of those photos and see if anything else jumps out at me. The creed stamping looks authentic but the mistake shouldn't be there - it's not one of those "they must not have read the memo" kinds of mistake. Of course it's always possible that it was sent to the outlets because of the mistake - that's happened a lot.

Wow! Interesting. You can be sure I'll watch for your update!

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach wallet
Listing number:1329682
Seller: roe2457
Link: http://www.listia.com/auction/1329682
Comments: I would appreciate any help with this one to see if my gut feeling is accurate.

I'm sorry but that wallet is fake.

You're the second seller in less than a week who has come here with a fake that came from Listia.

If there's a report function on that site, please use it. If not, perhaps it's an improvement that should be added.

Seller roe2457 isn't honest. She states that the wallet came from a department store. There's NO WAY this came from any legitimate department store and I believe she knows it.
In fact, she claims her listing was flagged and reported already.

I've reported and it has been removed once. The seller has relisted and is now claiming she bought it at a "department store" so Listia is apparently accepting that as proof that it's authentic. I was 99% sure it was fake but started seriously questioning myself after so many people placed bids and posted positive comments. Thank you so much!

LOL! I signed up so I could flag that fake.

"Claims" of department store purchase mean nothing! I can't believe that they'll accept that as "proof" of authenticity.

 

[1983.alegna]

Thanks BeenBurned! Just before I go and apologize to the seller, would you say the items I've listed on the previous page are non-issues?

1. crooked and not-so-neat stitching on some parts of the bag--

2. the creed patch is not centered --lopsided: //http://www.flickr.com/photos/58593219@N08/5371454910/
3. also on the creed: there is no space between the words 'reflect' and 'our' : REFLECTOUR
4. glue and paint residue--

5. the lozenge logo on the buckle was not stamped well (doesn't look refined) --

6. the loop on the strap is poorly made--

7. hangtag: poor stitching, esp on the back --

If you say yes, I promise I'll say sorry to her asap. After reading the guides on ebay, i got more paranoid. ;p I guess I just want some peace of mind.

Thank you so much again! You are all so helpful.

 

[BeenBurned]

Thanks BeenBurned! Just before I go and apologize to the seller, would you say the items I've listed on the previous page are non-issues?

1. crooked and not-so-neat stitching on some parts of the bag--

2. the creed patch is not centered --lopsided: //http://www.flickr.com/photos/58593219@N08/5371454910/
3. also on the creed: there is no space between the words 'reflect' and 'our' : REFLECTOUR
4. glue and paint residue--

5. the lozenge logo on the buckle was not stamped well (doesn't look refined) --

6. the loop on the strap is poorly made--

7. hangtag: poor stitching, esp on the back --

If you say yes, I promise I'll say sorry to her asap. After reading the guides on ebay, i got more paranoid. ;p I guess I just want some peace of mind.

Thank you so much again! You are all so helpful.

Don't apologize yet.

Read Hyacinth's post: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-577470-727.html#post17765288