Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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Thank you and be safe!

 

[avalavender]

When posting is in the required format, it allows us to report the listing, watch the seller, see the listing, take note of if it's relisted either on etsy or on another site, look at her other listings to see if there are other fakes, etc.

Ooooh okay, I will be more diligent about using the required format from now on!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi again!
Just curious, there seem to be quite a few bags with the prefix D6J that have the correct style number after..

It just seems like a lot of effort for (I assume one specific group of) counterfeiters to go through to make soooooo many different styles, that all seem to be authentic with the exception for the plant code.

Here are some:

Geometric bag:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...556862?hash=item419f5d28be:g:ssgAAOSwlaxWN~2B

Legacy zips:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-black...874065?hash=item54212d5d91:g:C8UAAOSw-vlVi-1m

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-BLA...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.etsy.com/listing/165824814/coach-red-leather-legacy-zip-9966

https://www.etsy.com/listing/163107076/coach-large-brown-leather-classic

Station bag:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/184451425/vintage-coach-black-leather-station

Backpack:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/coach-vintage-black-backpack-purse-172154091

Beekman:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lea...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Legacy companion:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-AUT...EATHER-SOULDER-BAG-No-D6J-9715-/221947538487?

While looking for other styles I found this cached set of posts from tPF where it was mentioned that J was used as a clothing plant which would make sense for the following leather jacket:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-D6J-0964-BROWN-SUEDE-COAT-SIZE-SMALL-8-10-/131255664084

I don't know enough about catalog years to know if all of these bags were available in 1996 (and of course there could be other problems with the bags as well), but IF THEY WERE would we have to assume that all of them are fake based solely on the J plant code?

Finally, this is a bag I saw posted in the Hall of Shame, which is what prompted me to look into this further.. Barring the fact that she listed it as Bonnie Cashin from the 80's etc. what else about THIS specific bag would set off the "fake alarms" besides the J plant code? I know this seller has dubious credentials which is why I mention this bag specifically.

The more I learn the more it seems like Coach's motto is "The rules are there are no rules."

My comments are in CAPS I hope these prove what we're already said.

And you're close, but Coach's official motto is "The only consistent thing about Coach is our inconsistency"

You're REALLY determined to make us spend our entire morning on the day before Thanksgiving reporting fake bags, aren't you?

One last comparison - the REAL serial number stamp from the clothing plant for the Beresford Coat vs. the fake serial number stamp (most of the fake numbers use the same font too) found in all the D6J- bags you posted:

 

[PeachCity]

Once again we'll remind everyone - DON'T EVER EXPECT A SELLER TO KNOW OR POST THE CORRECT NAME OR STYLE NUMBER (or to know or post when it was made or who designed it, or what "vintage" actually means)

It's NOT a Penny, it's NOT a 9755 Pocket Purse either. It MIGHT be a City Bag but Coach gives the City Bag measurements as 11x7, the seller says this is 8x10. Whatever it is, it's genuine, made in 1987. At least the seller posted the right time period.

Always thankful for all advices and thanks Hyacinth for helping me authenticate.

 

[Hyacinth]

And another one :

Name : COACH Vintage 80's USA BURGUNDY LEATHER Messenger CrossBody Purse Handbag
Item # : 252180278447
Seller : hotlipz_02(246)
Link : http://m.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintage...rse-Handbag-/252180278447?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE

Thanks again.

Genuine City Bag style 9790 from 1987

 

[PeachCity]

Genuine City Bag style 9790 from 1987

Once again, a big thank you, Hyacinth

 

[Hyacinth]

Coach Court bag?

https://www.thredup.com/product/women-coach-brown-small-accessory/10939437

The bag measures 9.25 "x 8.25 "x 3"
Creed: E6G 9870 Made in the United States

I bought this bag from Thredup--an consignment company. I have purchased authentic things from the company before, but this bag is giving me pause. What is concerning to me is that creed is so lightly stamped that I am having trouble reading it, the stitching is sloppy in places, the inside of one pocket has a gap in the leather at the bottom, and the zipper pull is different from my other older Coach bags. I would appreciate any help in authenticating this, as I am just going by gut instinct on thinking it may not be authentic.

http://s1240.photobucket.com/user/M...all Coach--needs authentication?sort=3&page=1

Thank you!

Please wait for other opinions but I don't believe that bag is authentic.

Compare your creed to this one from the same plant 2 months later. The text is different and the font is wrong:
Yours:


Compare:

And another from same year and plant:

I agree with BeenBurned. The serial number font is completely wrong for that plant and date. Also the way the inside pocket zipper is sewn in doesn't look or "feel" right. But the font and poor stamping are more than enough to prove it's not genuine.

 

[WishingonaCoach]

Item: Authentic Coach Brown Leather Shoulder bag Vintage Genuine Coach bag
Listing number: 301802935923
Seller: 3926jennifer
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-C...5ac0430&pid=100033&rk=2&rkt=4&sd=121818341111
Comments: I have not seen one like this before, I like it although not sure about the lose of brass on the front. TIA as usual.

 

[MEGM]

Thank you, Hyacinth and Beenburned. I will contact the company about it. It was so inexpensive, but I can't love it, knowing that it's not authentic. Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Authentic Coach Brown Leather Shoulder bag Vintage Genuine Coach bag
Listing number: 301802935923
Seller: 3926jennifer
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-C...5ac0430&pid=100033&rk=2&rkt=4&sd=121818341111
Comments: I have not seen one like this before, I like it although not sure about the lose of brass on the front. TIA as usual.

It's genuine. The only description I've found is "Cashin Courier Metal Tab bag from the late 60s". Maybe someone else might have more information.

 

[LMichelleC]

One last comparison - the REAL serial number stamp from the clothing plant for the Beresford Coat vs. the fake serial number stamp (most of the fake numbers use the same font too) found in all the D6J- bags you posted:

Thanks Hyacinth!!!

That's such a disappointment about all of those fake bags! Whoever is responsible for them should probably direct their hard work toward something more beneficial to society.
Thankfully I only source my vintage and classic style bags for low cost from various thrift stores and flea markets, so there are bound to be some dirt clods in a sea of gems!

I must admit this investigation into Coach history and authentication is fun and quite addictive! I'll probably be posting some questions about my other bags soon.. Happy Thanksgiving!!

 

[WishingonaCoach]

It's genuine. The only description I've found is "Cashin Courier Metal Tab bag from the late 60s". Maybe someone else might have more information.

Thank you so much! Oh wow! That old, not wonder why the brass is so worn out.

 

[Bucketbagger]

Hi, please authenticate. I thrifted a bunch of bags for $10 a piece; hoping they are OK. There was a sale and I went a little nuts. Thanks in advance.

This bag looks like a city bag but it is small -- 9 inches long by 6.5 high. The strap is 48 in. unbuckled.

This looks to be a Watson. Style # is 9981

This Patty was too good to pass up for $10. Hard to read creed. A6D-9951. Would that mean she was made in 1996?

 

[whateve]

Hi, please authenticate. I thrifted a bunch of bags for $10 a piece; hoping they are OK. There was a sale and I went a little nuts. Thanks in advance.

This bag looks like a city bag but it is small -- 9 inches long by 6.5 high. The strap is 48 in. unbuckled.

This looks to be a Watson. Style # is 9981

This Patty was too good to pass up for $10. Hard to read creed. A6D-9951. Would that mean she was made in 1996?

All look fine. The first is a compartment bag 9850. The Patricia was made in 1996; you are correct.

 

[yellowjello]

Please authenticate. Thank you in advance.

Coach Baguette Style White Leather Handbag Purse
Goodwill Industries of Central Texas
25751378
link

and I posted these two lovelies yesterday but haven't heard back yet so hopefully someone will be able to help me out.

Coach Toffee Leather Tribeca Convertible Purse
Goodwill Industries of Mid Michigan
25705878
link

Vintage Coach Bag B7E4417 Black Pebbled Leather
Chattanooga Goodwill Industries
25709369
link

 

[Hyacinth]

Please authenticate. Thank you in advance.

Coach Baguette Style White Leather Handbag Purse
Goodwill Industries of Central Texas
25751378
link

and I posted these two lovelies yesterday but haven't heard back yet so hopefully someone will be able to help me out.

Coach Toffee Leather Tribeca Convertible Purse
Goodwill Industries of Mid Michigan
25705878
link

Vintage Coach Bag B7E4417 Black Pebbled Leather
Chattanooga Goodwill Industries
25709369
link

1- genuine, read the description carefully. It mentions pen marks, stains and verdigris The pictures aren't clear enough to identify it.

2- Tribeca Convertible Clutch
3- no creed photo.