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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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rhymeswithmusic said:
Hi Authenticators, I recently purchased this yellow purse -

Item: Leather Shoulder Bag
Listing number: CCH71194
Seller and site where listed: The Real Real
Link: https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/handbags/shoulder-bags/coach-leather-shoulder-bag-pbm7i
Comments: There is no serial number - I think it is a "small leather good", but are you please able to confirm its authenticity, and let me know what this style is called? Thank you again!
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I can't look at items on TRR without creating an account. Can you post pictures?
 
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whateve said:
It's fake. It is illegal to sell fakes so the thrift store should give you your money back.
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Thank you so much for your response, I’m beyond relieved that I checked in with the fine folks here - who so kindly lend their sharp eyes and time to us who are still learning - before undertaking the whole cleaning/restoration process. Should I really take it back to the thrift store? I don’t want to be confrontational, but if they’re supposed to refund me (and hopefully they’ll destroy it) then I would like my money back…
 
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BeenBurned said:
There is absolutely no question that the bag you bought the following seller is fake.
Etsy Seller
Emily White,
Owner of Foxriverfinds

Poshmark seller emilyannw

Instagram seller foxriverfinds -


If she refuses to give you a full refund of every penny you paid, file a dispute with your payment method.

Please refer the seller to this post if necessary. She is wrong! She sold you a fake and she needs to own her mistake.


ETA - the following posts both state that the bag is fake:
@whateve 's post: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-6216#post-36318801

@BeenBurned 's post: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-6216#post-36318872
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Thank you, BeenBurned.

The seller did process a full refund and maintains that the bag is authentic and the listing is currently live again on Etsy. She also found these messages and said she will report me for sharing out messages and falsely claiming that the bag is counterfeit.

She has provided the following screenshot from this link as her evidence. It actually does state in the editor's notes that it was made in 1990, though it is directly contradicting Coach's own website for this link. I've searched through Coach's catalogs from 1990 and onward, as well as this Vintage Coach Bag Database, and have never seen this before the year 2000. I'm confused. :confused1:

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pepperina said:
Thank you, BeenBurned.

The seller did process a full refund and maintains that the bag is authentic and the listing is currently live again on Etsy. She also found these messages and said she will report me for sharing out messages and falsely claiming that the bag is counterfeit.

She has provided the following screenshot from this link as her evidence. It actually does state in the editor's notes that it was made in 1990, though it is directly contradicting Coach's own website for this link. I've searched through Coach's catalogs from 1990 and onward, as well as this Vintage Coach Bag Database, and have never seen this before the year 2000. I'm confused. :confused1:

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The date of manufacture isn't as obvious an issue as the font of the creed number. Even if the date of manufacture wasn't an issue, the creed is still fake.
 
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jackie_fotta said:
Thank you so much for your response, I’m beyond relieved that I checked in with the fine folks here - who so kindly lend their sharp eyes and time to us who are still learning - before undertaking the whole cleaning/restoration process. Should I really take it back to the thrift store? I don’t want to be confrontational, but if they’re supposed to refund me (and hopefully they’ll destroy it) then I would like my money back…
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Definitely I would take it back. They shouldn't take advantage of people, even if they are a charity. They still have to follow the law.
 
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Lake Effect said:
@BeenBurned @whateve @pepperina


It’s the -06 attachment. The catalog pic would indicate it was a new offering in the 2000 for the holidays.
God, I love a paper trail. And the vintage catalog thread.
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Yes, thanks for the references! :smile: 🫶
I used the photo forom this thread and sent it to the seller to show her that it was a new style but she insisted that the bag is authentic. The catalog mentions the bag came in Vicuna and never mentions Camel. I'm also in a Vintage Coach bag FB group and have seen so many Camel colored 9085s and am very confused about those too. Is it possible the bags did come in Camel at some point in time?
 
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pepperina said:
Yes, thanks for the references! :smile: 🫶
I used the photo forom this thread and sent it to the seller to show her that it was a new style but she insisted that the bag is authentic. The catalog mentions the bag came in Vicuna and never mentions Camel. I'm also in a Vintage Coach bag FB group and have seen so many Camel colored 9085s and am very confused about those too. Is it possible the bags did come in Camel at some point in time?
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We don't rely completely on catalogs for colors. Some colors never made it into catalogs. Also, things made for the outlet don't appear in a catalog.
 
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jackie_fotta said:
I purchased this Coach Swing Bag from my local City Mission thrift store for $8.99. It was originally priced at $21.99; I pointed out a few key details to the store manager that had me worried about its authenticity - the signature pattern both inside and outside, the plastic-y feel of the lining, the weird spacing of the word “the” on the Creed patch, the lack of style or production code on the creed patch, the not perfect stitching on creed, the brass O rings having a break - that I think the manager assumed I shared with her in an attempt to get the bag for free. She *****ily stated that $8.99 was the lowest she’d go (so obviously, removing it from the floor wasn’t an option she’s considering), and tbh the hardware does have ‘Coach’ engraved, the leather strap is REALLY nice, and there’s 1941/USA on the creed, so I reasoned to myself that it was my civic duty to buy the bag and sort it out later.
Well I cannot find this exact bag online, anywhere; lots of variations, nothing that looks exactly like it. Lacking any numbers of any kind (I’ve looked extensively in the pockets, at the seams, turned lining inside out, etc) to distinguish well anything further complicated things. I’m asking for help both to ID the specific model of Swing bag (which hopefully will also provide age context) as well as to authenticate it. Thank you in advance!
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whateve said:
It's fake. It is illegal to sell fakes so the thrift store should give you your money back.
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jackie_fotta said:
Thank you so much for your response, I’m beyond relieved that I checked in with the fine folks here - who so kindly lend their sharp eyes and time to us who are still learning - before undertaking the whole cleaning/restoration process. Should I really take it back to the thrift store? I don’t want to be confrontational, but if they’re supposed to refund me (and hopefully they’ll destroy it) then I would like my money back…
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whateve said:
Definitely I would take it back. They shouldn't take advantage of people, even if they are a charity. They still have to follow the law.
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I would take it back too and if they don't do refunds, tell them you want to exchange it for something else.

Many thrifts will just put it back out on the selling floor either because they don't know the law or because they just don't care.

But for you, you were smart enough to ask about authenticity and you don't want a fake.
 
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pepperina said:
Thank you, BeenBurned.

The seller did process a full refund and maintains that the bag is authentic and the listing is currently live again on Etsy. She also found these messages and said she will report me for sharing out messages and falsely claiming that the bag is counterfeit.

She has provided the following screenshot from this link as her evidence. It actually does state in the editor's notes that it was made in 1990, though it is directly contradicting Coach's own website for this link. I've searched through Coach's catalogs from 1990 and onward, as well as this Vintage Coach Bag Database, and have never seen this before the year 2000. I'm confused. :confused1:

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It looks like it's also listed AGAIN on Poshmark.

Poshmark

emilyannw​


Etsy
Emily White, Owner of Foxriverfinds
 
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