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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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katev said:
Here are After pictures of my black Legacy Hobo 9058 (USA, 2001). These were taken after the second rehab when I applied Fiebing's Black Saddle Soap. I also used Leather CPR Conditioner, and Blackrock's Leather n Rich, and I polished the brass hardware.

I have also included a Coach WayBack page for the bag from 2001.

Isn't she pretty?! She still has some flaws and dents but I am much happier with the appearance of the bag now!
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it does look like camel was offered from katev's screenshot
pepperina said:
Yes, thanks for the references! :smile: 🫶
I used the photo forom this thread and sent it to the seller to show her that it was a new style but she insisted that the bag is authentic. The catalog mentions the bag came in Vicuna and never mentions Camel. I'm also in a Vintage Coach bag FB group and have seen so many Camel colored 9085s and am very confused about those too. Is it possible the bags did come in Camel at some point in time?
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whateve said:
We don't rely completely on catalogs for colors. Some colors never made it into catalogs. Also, things made for the outlet don't appear in a catalog.
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pepperina said:
Thank you, BeenBurned.

The seller did process a full refund and maintains that the bag is authentic and the listing is currently live again on Etsy. She also found these messages and said she will report me for sharing out messages and falsely claiming that the bag is counterfeit.

She has provided the following screenshot from this link as her evidence. It actually does state in the editor's notes that it was made in 1990, though it is directly contradicting Coach's own website for this link. I've searched through Coach's catalogs from 1990 and onward, as well as this Vintage Coach Bag Database, and have never seen this before the year 2000. I'm confused. :confused1:
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The bag was definitely NOT made in 1996 as indicated by the seller.

Every bag (style 9058) I found was made in 2000, 2001 or 2002. (There may be some later ones but none in the 90s.)


Your seller is of the mistaken belief that if the style of the bag has a seemingly "correct" style number, it must be authentic. But the counterfeiters have made many fakes with "correct" serial numbers.

Note that I made a correction to my post.
 
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BeenBurned said:
The bag was definitely NOT made in 1996 as indicated by the seller.

This listing is an AUTHENTIC bag (9073)

Pardon Our Interruption...

www.ebay.com

Your seller is of the mistaken belief that if the style of the bag has a seemingly "correct" style number, it must be authentic. But the counterfeiters have made many fakes with "correct" serial numbers.
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That's a different bag, 9073. The seller screwed up the title of the listing.
 
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BeenBurned said:
The bag was definitely NOT made in 1996 as indicated by the seller.

I was able to find one 1999 bag (style 9058) but most of those available were made in 2000 or later.

This listing is an AUTHENTIC bag (9058) and is the earliest I was able to find from 1999.

Pardon Our Interruption...

www.ebay.com

Your seller is of the mistaken belief that if the style of the bag has a seemingly "correct" style number, it must be authentic. But the counterfeiters have made many fakes with "correct" serial numbers.
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@BeenBurned @Lake Effect @whateve
Yes, I think she fully believes that her bag is authentic because of the format of the creed. She fully intends on reselling it to some poor other person who doesn't know better (like me initially 🥲).

I let Etsy know and submitted my evidence, but I don't have the power to do much more than that especially since I'm the only one complaining to them lol.

The ONLY thing that I did find that confused me was this Vintage 9058 that sold on Coach's site that states in the Editor's Notes that it was made in 1990 for some reason??? But they contradict themselves because in this Vintage 9058 that sold on Coach's site it states in the Editor's Notes that is was first introduced in 2000.


-----Also, by chance can Creeds that have a dash "–" between the "No" and the first letter of the Month code ever authentic?
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pepperina said:
Wow, thank you!! That is immensely helpful :smile: I only learned how to browse the Wayback yesterday during my research haha. I love being able to bring out the receipts :clap:

It's great to know camel was a color offered as it is beautiful!
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LOL, receipts, for real. When in doubt, search this thread and the forum. It’s a treasure trove. I’m so grateful for the body of knowledge preserved here by the authenticators! And the whole forum.
 
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pepperina said:
@BeenBurned @Lake Effect @whateve
Yes, I think she fully believes that her bag is authentic because of the format of the creed. She fully intends on reselling it to some poor other person who doesn't know better (like me initially 🥲).

I let Etsy know and submitted my evidence, but I don't have the power to do much more than that especially since I'm the only one complaining to them lol.

The ONLY thing that I did find that confused me was this Vintage 9058 that sold on Coach's site that states in the Editor's Notes that it was made in 1990 for some reason??? But they contradict themselves because in this Vintage 9058 that sold on Coach's site it states in the Editor's Notes that is was first introduced in 2000.


-----Also, by chance can Creeds that have a dash "–" between the "No" and the first letter of the Month code ever authentic?
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They make a lot of mistakes at Coach.com. The people who write the copy aren't well informed. There are some authentic creeds that can have an extra dash like in your picture. We use all details of a creed along with design details of a bag to determine authenticity. You can't usually determine a bag is authentic based on one picture, but one picture may be enough prove a bag is fake.
 
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whateve said:
They make a lot of mistakes at Coach.com. The people who write the copy aren't well informed. There are some authentic creeds that can have an extra dash like in your picture. We use all details of a creed along with design details of a bag to determine authenticity. You can't usually determine a bag is authentic based on one picture, but one picture may be enough prove a bag is fake.
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I see, thank you! I was wondering why Coach contradicted themselves. I even found a singular Editor's Note on another lisiting on Coach's site that said it was made in 1992 lol.

Either way, thank you all for warning me about the fake and I appreciate your time and your valuable insight! I can only hope that someone doesn't try to purchase the re-listed fake 🙏

EDIT: It appears that now the listing on Etsy has been removed and the Posmark listing is inactive (at least for now), though the one on Instagram is still there. Instagram
 
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libby0902 said:
Good evening authenticators, could you please authenticate this bag for me? Thank you!
I authenticated this bag on Prizon. It said it is real, but I'm not quite sure.
Because the bag is really small and hard to take photos, so I just used few photos I uploaded on Prizon.

Item: COACH Mini town bucket bag #C7266
Listing Creed Number: H2177-C7266
Seller and site where listed: Depop
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Do you have a link to the listing?
 
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refrefrefref said:
Hi there, I was wondering if this coach bag could be authenticated? I noticed that the creed is a little slanted and the hang tag. Any help would be super great, thank you so much!

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Next time read the first post at the top of the thread. We need to know where you got the bag; if online, we need a link to the listing. It's fake.
 
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