Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

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[fosterjenni]

Item: Green Coach, I think it’s Devon?

Where purchased or how obtained
Comments: Poshmark - I took a chance and bought it without seeing the creed.

This bag looks ok to me but the space after “cowhide. The” seems spread out. I’m probably over thinking it.
I appreciate the help! Thank you!

 

[Clicky]

Hi Authenticators - I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this one:
Item: Coach court with nickel hardware from 2000
Listing number:
Seller and site where listed - poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintag...-Convertible-Satchel-621158e493649fe417f24823
Comments: Did coach change the construction of the front of the court bag in 2000? Or is this a fake? I'm confused by the front rising up instead of being even with the rest of the top of the bag. Also - the nickel hardware is nearly completely worn down on this bag. Is this well-loved wear, or a sign of cheap metal and also an indicator of being a fake? Otherwise, the rest of the construction is immaculate, the leather is like buttah and it feels and looks authentic - but I'm confused by the hardware and the seam. Even the strap hardware looks chewed up.

Thank you so much for your help.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi Authenticators - I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this one:
Item: Coach court with nickel hardware from 2000
Listing number:
Seller and site where listed - poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintag...-Convertible-Satchel-621158e493649fe417f24823
Comments: Did coach change the construction of the front of the court bag in 2000? Or is this a fake? I'm confused by the front rising up instead of being even with the rest of the top of the bag. Also - the nickel hardware is nearly completely worn down on this bag. Is this well-loved wear, or a sign of cheap metal and also an indicator of being a fake? Otherwise, the rest of the construction is immaculate, the leather is like buttah and it feels and looks authentic - but I'm confused by the hardware and the seam. Even the strap hardware looks chewed up.

Thank you so much for your help.

Coach DID change the design of the front of the Court Bag at least once in the late 1990s, if you mean the part under the flap. The late '90s were also the first years for nickel-color hardware for handbags and there may have been some issues. We've seen those "wear marks" before that look like indentations where the clips rub against the tops of the D-rings and wear down the metal.

The bag itself is genuine, made in 2000.

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Green Coach, I think it’s Devon?

Where purchased or how obtained
Comments: Poshmark - I took a chance and bought it without seeing the creed.

This bag looks ok to me but the space after “cowhide. The” seems spread out. I’m probably over thinking it.
I appreciate the help! Thank you!

You're asking the right person, I'm the Authentication thread Expert on overthinking things.

Creed stamps changed constantly, there was no such thing as a "standard" stamp once Coach started adding plants to the original one in NYC. The ONLY time that creed stamps can come close to being compared is between bags made in the same plant, month and year, with the same style number and the same kind of lining or no lining. And sometimes even stamps from the same month could be different. Serial number stamp details changed almost as often. The closer things got to the end of production in the Western Hemisphere the more modifications we see in both types of stamps. That's why it takes an experienced authenticator to tell the diffferance between real and fake.

And yes, it's s Devon Bag, early 1990s

 

[Clicky]

Coach DID change the design of the front of the Court Bag at least once in the late 1990s, if you mean the part under the flap. The late '90s were also the first years for nickel-color hardware for handbags and there may have been some issues. The bag itself is genuine, made in 2000.

Thank you so much for clarifying that design change under the flap! And from the looks of this bag, I'd have to agree with the suggestion of there may have been some issues with the hardware.

 

[whateve]

Thank you so much for clarifying that design change under the flap! And from the looks of this bag, I'd have to agree with the suggestion of there may have been some issues with the hardware.

Congratulations to you for noticing the design change! I believe it changed around 1999. Several years ago I wrote a post about it.

ETA: We've seen the wear in the rings before on both brass and nickel.

 

[fosterjenni]

You're asking the right person, I'm the Authentication thread Expert on overthinking things.

Creed stamps changed constantly, there was no such thing as a "standard" stamp once Coach started adding plants to the original one in NYC. The ONLY time that creed stamps can come close to being compared is between bags made in the same plant, month and year, with the same style number and the same kind of lining or no lining. And sometimes even stamps from the same month could be different. Serial number stamp details changed almost as often. The closer things got to the end of production in the Western Hemisphere the more modifications we see in both types of stamps. That's why it takes an experienced authenticator to tell the diffferance between real and fake.

And yes, it's s Devon Bag, early 1990s

Thank you! You are amazing. I’m excited to clean this one!

 

[indie927]

Hello Authenticators, could you help me authenticate this bag?

Item: not sure; 80s coach bag
Listing number: N/A | Poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Rare-V...eather-Crossbody-Bag-61fdd42c7ec30ca6f86a782d

Comments: N/A
Not sure about the first two characters on the creed “OC2” maybe? So it would be OC2-7227
Like always, Thank you very much for all of what you do!

 

[whateve]

Hello Authenticators, could you help me authenticate this bag?

Item: not sure; 80s coach bag
Listing number: N/A | Poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Rare-V...eather-Crossbody-Bag-61fdd42c7ec30ca6f86a782d

Comments: N/A
Not sure about the first two characters on the creed “OC2” maybe? So it would be OC2-7227
Like always, Thank you very much for all of what you do!

It's authentic. The creed is 002-7227. It was made around 1992-1993.

 

[Hyacinth]

Coach DID change the design of the front of the Court Bag at least once in the late 1990s, if you mean the part under the flap. The late '90s were also the first years for nickel-color hardware for handbags and there may have been some issues. We've seen those "wear marks" before that look like indentations where the clips rub against the tops of the D-rings and wear down the metal.

The bag itself is genuine, made in 2000.

Congratulations to you for noticing the design change! I believe it changed around 1999. Several years ago I wrote a post about it.

ETA: We've seen the wear in the rings before on both brass and nickel.

@Clicky

I found one of @whateve's posts about the change in the top of the Court Bag in 1999. The Ebay listing she referred to in her post is long gone but I saved one of the photos. She was actually referring to a fake someone had asked about but the pictures she referred to (including the black one below) when talking about that small design change were of a genuine Court Bag. Here's a visual comparison of how they were changed in 1999, the Jade color example is the early configuration, probably 1995, and the black one is the new 1999 change. It's small but easy to spot if you know what to look for.

Her 2014 post:

AUTHENTICATE this COACH!

I think it is! That is so crazy!!! I just washed it today. I got scared because the water kept changing colors. I can't wait to see how it looks after I condition it. The Rambler looks really good. I PMed you with a question on the rambler...plmk!!

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the "early" version:



the 1999 change to a rounded corner:



Thanks, Whateve!

 

[pet1516]

Good morning authenticators

I have this belmont a friend is looking to sell.

belmont
9” H x 9” L x 5” W

 

[pet1516]

dear authenticators

I didn’t think this inquiry went thru because half way thru attaching photos, for some reason I could get into this site anymore.
Please see below rest of the photos.

if you could kindly confirm authenticity.
Style: belmont
9x9x5

 

[BeenBurned]

Good morning authenticators

I have this belmont a friend is looking to sell.

belmont
9” H x 9” L x 5” W

The creed picture is needed.

 

[Hyacinth]

nm

 

[BeenBurned]

Good morning authenticators

I have this belmont a friend is looking to sell.

belmont
9” H x 9” L x 5” W

The creed picture is needed.

dear authenticators

I didn’t think this inquiry went thru because half way thru attaching photos, for some reason I could get into this site anymore.
Please see below rest of the photos.

if you could kindly confirm authenticity.
Style: belmont
9x9x5

Oops, posted before you added more pictures.

It's fine, made in 1997.