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@Clicky

I found one of @whateve's posts about the change in the top of the Court Bag in 1999. The Ebay listing she referred to in her post is long gone but I saved one of the photos. She was actually referring to a fake someone had asked about but the pictures she referred to (including the black one below) when talking about that small design change were of a genuine Court Bag. Here's a visual comparison of how they were changed in 1999, the Jade color example is the early configuration, probably 1995, and the black one is the new 1999 change. It's small but easy to spot if you know what to look for.

Her 2014 post:

the "early" version:
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the 1999 change to a rounded corner:
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Thanks, Whateve!

You ROCK! and what a fascinating case study of that really REALLY good fake! eesh! Thank you so much. I find all of this delightfully fascinating and a really fun challenge.
 
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Item: Black Coach Leather Shoulder Bag
Listing number: ?
Seller and site where listed: Poshmark, papagrgo
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Black-Coach-Leather-Shoulder-Bag-6211d3b3180136ae068dc421
Comments: I like this bag. However, they mentioned something "shiny" on the surface. Shoe polish? I've read here that that's not good. The hardware on the turnlock looks wonky. A replacement? Is the bag itself authentic?. If so, I know I can clean it up and make it beautiful.
 
Item: Black Coach Leather Shoulder Bag
Listing number: ?
Seller and site where listed: Poshmark, papagrgo
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Black-Coach-Leather-Shoulder-Bag-6211d3b3180136ae068dc421
Comments: I like this bag. However, they mentioned something "shiny" on the surface. Shoe polish? I've read here that that's not good. The hardware on the turnlock looks wonky. A replacement? Is the bag itself authentic?. If so, I know I can clean it up and make it beautiful.
You don't want that bag from papagrgo. It's fake.

I wonder if the blurry creed picture is intentional. The serial number doesn't show but I'm positive that I'm seeing that it's made in Korea. (The female part of the turnlock closure is missing too though on a genuine bag, that's replaceable.)
 
Item: Black Coach Leather Shoulder Bag
Listing number: ?
Seller and site where listed: Poshmark, papagrgo
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Black-Coach-Leather-Shoulder-Bag-6211d3b3180136ae068dc421
Comments: I like this bag. However, they mentioned something "shiny" on the surface. Shoe polish? I've read here that that's not good. The hardware on the turnlock looks wonky. A replacement? Is the bag itself authentic?. If so, I know I can clean it up and make it beautiful.

The shape of the male part of the turnlock is totally wrong too, it's not just wonky. That "shiny surface" warning just by itself is worrying. "Elephant-skin" stretch marks all over the underflap pocket, an inside pocket zipper pull stamped "COACH" which you should never see in any vintage bag except maybe for genuine Sonomas, and a style that doesn't match any vintage bag I'm familiar with. And @BeenBurned is 100 percent correct that the creed says Made In Korea.

NOTHING can make that Korean POS beautiful. I hope you're not the "lucky" buyer.

Please have Poshmark items authenticated before buying.

And I strongly suggest to everyone that, if possible, listing photos be examined with a full-feature computer or laptop rather than just a phone before deciding to buy. The more expensive the bag is, the more important it is to examine all photos as closely as possible.
 
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Item:Coach vintage courier bag
Listing number: 648-9555
Seller and site where listed evepf19 on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/Ba6pNWBXXnb
comments: please authenticate this bag when you get a chance. The hangtag looks strange. Is the zipper pull inside right? What approximate year would you say this was made? Thank you.

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Genuine Courier Pouch made some time in the early to mid 1980s. If the bag is genuine, the inside zipper is probably genuine too. I can't comment on the hangtag.
 
The shape of the male part of the turnlock is totally wrong too, it's not just wonky. "Elephant-skin" stretch marks all over the underflap pocket, an inside pocket zipper pull stamped "COACH" which you should never see in any vintage bag except maybe for genuine Sonomas, and a style that doesn't match any vintage bag I'm familiar with. And @BeenBurned is 100 percent correct that the creed says Made In Korea.

NOTHING can make that Korean POS beautiful. I hope you're not the "lucky" buyer.

Please have Poshmark items authenticated before buying.

And I strongly suggest to everyone that, if possible, listing photos be examined with a full-feature computer or laptop rather than just a phone before deciding to buy. The more expensive the bag is, the more important it is to examine all photos as closely as possible.
Thank you. OK my experiment with looking at poshmark as a sourcing space is concluded.
 
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