Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach Willis Top handle 18 - 5789
Listing number: -
Seller and site where listed: Carousell
Link: https://www.carousell.ph/p/rush-sal...llis&t-referrer_sort_by=popular&t-tap_index=2
Comments: seeking help to authenticate the bag as I notice the creed is different from those selling on the website. So, I have my doubt. thanks.

I can't see the creed photo but between the seller claiming that "it was a gift" and absolving herself of blame if it turns out to be fake, and the fact that the seller is in the Philippines which is one of the Top Three current sources for Coach fakes, I would STRONGLY advise you NOT to buy it. The second of the first 3 photos is stolen from another website, and the third photo doesn't even look like the second one, the leather tabs for the turnlocks are different and the turnlocks are in different positions.

Please always include seller's ID:
mykindofclothing©
@mykindofclothing

I'm 99.999% sure that bag is authentic.

There's a problem and contradiction between the style of bag and the made in tag.

As @Hyacinth mentioned, there are many, MANY fakes coming from the Philippines but even more caution is necessary when dealing with the PI because the fakes are extremely close.

ETA: 100% positive that the bag is fake.

 

[samfalstaff]

Both are genuine.
4906 - Medium Bucket Zip Natural Grain
4907 - Small Bucket Zip Natural Grain

Thanks!

 

[Catness]

Hello,
I would like to get this bag authenticated. Information found below:

Item: COACH Carrier Musette Bag
Seller: Malama1 (Vintage Reimagined)
Site: Etsy
Link to Item: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1150735268/vintage-coach-musette-carrier-bag?ref=user_profile&frs=1
Thank you!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello,
I would like to get this bag authenticated. Information found below:

Item: COACH Carrier Musette Bag
Seller: Malama1 (Vintage Reimagined)
Site: Etsy
Link to Item: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1150735268/vintage-coach-musette-carrier-bag?ref=user_profile&frs=1
Thank you!

Genuine but it's a Carrier Bag style 9800, not a Musette. It was made between the early 1980s and 1988.

 

[soupsoup2018]

Item: Coach Vachetta Collection Shoulder Bag
Listing number: n/a
Seller and site where listed: moriahoward / poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Vachetta-Collection-Shoulder-Bag-5f04fb5f88cce3cb91c2af26
Comments: Looking at some of the catalogs, the exterior of the bag looks like it might be a hamptons hobo 7783, but the creed shown has 6155. Assistance with authenticating this item is greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!

 

[Catness]

Genuine but it's a Carrier Bag style 9800, not a Musette. It was made between the early 1980s and 1988.

Thank you for reviewing and clarifying the style. I greatly appreciate your assistance.

 

[vintagecoachcollector]

We don't discuss value, and the Forum's Rules don't allow it. Resellers or buyers wanting to know what something will be worth in the future can research on Ebay to see what that style made in different countries has sold for.

sorry not aware that we are not allow to discuss value and thanks for the advice.

 

[vintagecoachcollector]

I can't see the creed photo but between the seller claiming that "it was a gift" and absolving herself of blame if it turns out to be fake, and the fact that the seller is in the Philippines which is one of the Top Three current sources for Coach fakes, I would STRONGLY advise you NOT to buy it. The second of the first 3 photos is stolen from another website, and the third photo doesn't even look like the second one, the leather tabs for the turnlocks are different and the turnlocks are in different positions.

thanks for the advice Hyacinth and for the info. I'm not aware that Philippines is the top 3 sources for fakes Coach.

 

[binney]

If there is anyone willing to take a look at this Poshmark listing, I’d appreciate your time. Creed looks “off” to me and no letter for manny date.

https://posh.mk/LaAMjldMgnb

 

[Hyacinth]

If there is anyone willing to take a look at this Poshmark listing, I’d appreciate your time. Creed looks “off” to me and no letter for manny date.

https://posh.mk/LaAMjldMgnb

Coach didn't start using production, date, year plant and style number codes in their serial numbers until 1994. Please read the six Salearea Guides for more information.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

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It's genuine, one of the three Cabin Bag styles but I can't tell which without measurements. It would have been made between around 1990 and 1993.

 

[Hyacinth]

thanks for the advice Hyacinth and for the info. I'm not aware that Philippines is the top 3 sources for fakes Coach.

Sorry to give you unpleasant news if that's your home country, but it IS a major source of fakes and has been for at least the last five years, thanks no doubt to their Chinese neighbors who found it an excellent source to both manufacture (Coach actually does have a plant there too) and import, both legally and illegally, all sorts of counterfeit merchandise thanks to its more than a thousand miles of island coastlines that Chinese smugglers have learned to use to their advantage.

Whenever possible, we urge residents of the P.I. to avoid buying from local small sellers, and to always use a major international credit card or a system like Paypal that offers an effective refund process is someone buys a fake. NEVER pay by cash or bank transfer.

 

[Hyacinth]

sorry not aware that we are not allow to discuss value and thanks for the advice.

The Rules for this thread are in the first 2 posts by the Managers on this page:

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One of them says "Please note that comments on price and condition are NOT permitted." That includes stating or speculating on the market value of any item. Values can and do change with the wind, especially current prices which have seen major ups and downs just in the last year. If someone wants to buy something that has a reasonable change of increasing in price, real estate would be a safer option. Handbags except perhaps for the massively expensive brands and styles, are NOT good investments. And speculating what the market will be 6 or 12 months from now is useless, we've already seen how prices can be manipulated or inflated just by posts in public or private discussion groups like this one and others.

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Coach Vachetta Collection Shoulder Bag
Listing number: n/a
Seller and site where listed: moriahoward / poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Vachetta-Collection-Shoulder-Bag-5f04fb5f88cce3cb91c2af26
Comments: Looking at some of the catalogs, the exterior of the bag looks like it might be a hamptons hobo 7783, but the creed shown has 6155. Assistance with authenticating this item is greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!

It's a genuine 6155 Vachetta Small Hobo. It's not even the same shape as the 7783 Hamptons Leather Hobo, the corners in the photos are different. Just because one style looks like another doesn't mean that's what it is. The same holds if two styles have similar names.

6155:


7783:

 

[binney]

Coach didn't start using production, date, year plant and style number codes in their serial numbers until 1994. Please read the six Salearea Guides for more information.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

forum.purseblog.com

It's genuine, one of the three Cabin Bag styles but I can't tell which without measurements. It would have been made between around 1990 and 1993.

Thank you.

 

[soupsoup2018]

It's a genuine 6155 Vachetta Small Hobo. It's not even the same shape as the 7783 Hamptons Leather Hobo, the corners in the photos are different. Just because one style looks like another doesn't mean that's what it is. The same holds if two styles have similar names.

6155:
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7783:
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Lol, the catalogue pic of 7783 was only a partial, so yes the full pic you have definitely shows they are different! I couldn't find any other posts with the 6155 style in it or internet searches. Thank you so much, Hyacinth!