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#6,391
Hyacinth said:
Welcome to tPF!

I don't see any strap problems. If you mean the overlap near the end where two lengths of piping or edging was sewn together, that's normal on vintage and older Coaches.

The bag is genuine and vintage and could be a Classic Shoulder Bag, style number 9170, probably from the early to middle 1980s.
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2boxermom said:
You have fantastically made my day!!
Thank you for your time.

I will honor it as my first and genuine Coach bag.
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You found a good one to start with. :smile1:

The original version was called a Classic Pouch and was one of the early Coach bags, the style goes back to at least 1970. (Coach didn't actually start making purses until the early 1960s). The company was founded in 1941 but in the beginning made small leather goods, not handbags.

There's an interesting look at Coach's early history here:
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/coach-inc-history/

Also keep this in mind - older Coaches WERE faked, and sometimes faked pretty well. So always ask for authentication here BEFORE you buy, if possible.

And if you're looking for more reading matter, there are several lists and guides that I and other forum members have contributed to that might clear up some questions as you get deeper into the brand.

List of frequently-used fake Coach serial numbers, posted here at tPF:

posts 1077-1081
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-72.html#post26447774

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-72.html#post26447783

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-72.html#post26447792

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-72.html#post26447822


UPDATES TO HYACINTH's tPF List after March 2014:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-85.html#post28191806


The six Salearea Coach Guides, posted by one of Ebay's most experienced Coach sellers and a tPF member:

SALEAREA GUIDES
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea_W0QQcpnameZmembersQQprZsaleareaQQuqtZg

or
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea?uqt=g

Individual Guides on:
Serial Numbers:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Serial-Numbers-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000034886433/g.html

Creeds;
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Creeds-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000030821024/g.html

YKK Zippers:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-and-the-YKK-Zipper-Myth-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000040073710/g.html


Authenticity Guides:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Authenticity-Guides-Facts-and-Myths-/10000000062607882/g.html

Italy:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Italy-Guide-Coach-Italian-Made-Bags-/10000000051492233/g.html

Vintage & Classic Leathers:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Authentic-Coach-Vintage-and-Classic-Leather-/10000000062579034/g.html


If you have any questions on any of the information in the guides and list, just ask.

And here's a page from the 1986 Summer catalog showing that style:
 

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#6,392
whateve said:
Thank you! I agree with Hyacinth that the creed looks correct.

Having the strap attached to the back must make the bag tip forward. I love the cute turnlocks but I imagine it would be a pain if you had to undo them every time you wanted to get inside the bag.
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Actually you can still access the interior without opening the turn locks,
but opening at least one makes it easier.
I think this bag would work best as a cross body type, especially since the D-rings for the strap are on back, it will lay nicely on the hip. I'll see if I have something for it!
Thanks girls!!
 
#6,393
frenchieRU said:
Hi everyone! It's been awhile! :smile1:
I think this is a duffle sac. It has a talon zipper, the buckle is different than other bags I've seen, and it looks like a piece of berkley suede was used on the creed pocket. (The rest of the bag is smooth leather.) I used the eyeshadow trick to make it readable and it reads fine. The serial number is: 331-3705. The dimensions are: 9'' x 13'' x 9'', 15.5'' at the top.
Any idea on the year or timeframe for this one?
TIA :smile1:
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I think this got buried so *bump*
 
#6,395
Hyacinth said:
Ok, those I'll accept since I've seen a few of them on recent styles. So "Hyacinth's Half-Arsed Rule #2" should probably be "Coach never marked their name or logo on any Trigger-type or Dogleash strap clips".

Notice I specified "STRAP clips" because there is one oddball early Valet keychain style 7364 with two dogleash clips and at least one has a Coach logo.
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I guess they figured they had to put the logo somewhere!
 
#6,401
whateve said:
Coach Key Ring. Handbags Nwot
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221785706899
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Key-Ring-Handbags-Nwot-/221785706899?hash=item33a3755193
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Hyacinth said:
I've never seen it before, but would a fakes maker actually create new charms of mostly vintage bags? :shrugs:
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Hmm. I'm not comfortable with it. I don't think it was made by Coach.

The enameling on the handbags looks concave where it would probably be smooth and even with the edges. The charms are handbags from (seemingly) too wide a timespan of when the bags were made. (Usually the charms are bags from the same era.) Coach's handbag charms with which I'm familiar have "stitching" or some other pave/detailing on the handles. The logos on the backs of some of the charms look odd although I believe the lozenge is authentic.
 
#6,402
WishingonaCoach said:
Hello ladies!

Could you please let me know if this Ashley is authentic before I sell it?
I got it about 2 yrs ago from a coworker, and she has many designer purses, I didn't doubt then, but as I said I want to sell it to buy a new one ;), and of course I have to be sure.

If you need more pictures let me know. TIA!

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It looks good to me.
 
#6,403
Hello Ladies,


Please authenticate the following Coach items:


Item: vintage COACH red leather, feedbag, bucket, hobo, duffel, convertible, shoulder
Listing: 251971784930
Seller: bebemensch
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/251971784930?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Item: Vintage BONNIE CASHIN COACH Camel Crescent HOBO SADDLE BAG HANDBAG Purse NYC
Listing: 141672343696
Seller:billybblue
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141672343696?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT


Item: Vintage Coach Brown Suede Drawstring Bucket Bag, H6B-9012
Listing: 321763601510
Seller: ljkuper
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321763601510?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT


Item: Rare Bonnie Cashin- Carry of Coach Green Kisslock Clutch Vintage
Listing: 131509083703
Seller: hallsilhouette
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131509083703?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT


Thanks in advance and also thank you for the last authentications you provided, I forgot to acknowledge your professional assistance!
 
#6,404
Hyacinth said:
Welcome to tPF!

I don't see any strap problems. If you mean the overlap near the end where two lengths of piping or edging was sewn together, that's normal on vintage and older Coaches.

The bag is genuine and vintage and could be a Classic Shoulder Bag, style number 9170, probably from the early to middle 1980s.
Click to expand...

Hyacinth said:
You found a good one to start with. :smile1:

The original version was called a Classic Pouch and was one of the early Coach bags, the style goes back to at least 1970. (Coach didn't actually start making purses until the early 1960s). The company was founded in 1941 but in the beginning made small leather goods, not handbags.

There's an interesting look at Coach's early history here:
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/coach-inc-history/

Also keep this in mind - older Coaches WERE faked, and sometimes faked pretty well. So always ask for authentication here BEFORE you buy, if possible.

And if you're looking for more reading matter, there are several lists and guides that I and other forum members have contributed to that might clear up some questions as you get deeper into the brand.

List of frequently-used fake Coach serial numbers, posted here at tPF:

posts 1077-1081
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-72.html#post26447774

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-72.html#post26447783

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-72.html#post26447792

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-72.html#post26447822


UPDATES TO HYACINTH's tPF List after March 2014:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-85.html#post28191806


The six Salearea Coach Guides, posted by one of Ebay's most experienced Coach sellers and a tPF member:

SALEAREA GUIDES
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea_W0QQcpnameZmembersQQprZsaleareaQQuqtZg

or
http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea?uqt=g

Individual Guides on:
Serial Numbers:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Serial-Numbers-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000034886433/g.html

Creeds;
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Creeds-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000030821024/g.html

YKK Zippers:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-and-the-YKK-Zipper-Myth-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000040073710/g.html


Authenticity Guides:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Authenticity-Guides-Facts-and-Myths-/10000000062607882/g.html

Italy:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Italy-Guide-Coach-Italian-Made-Bags-/10000000051492233/g.html

Vintage & Classic Leathers:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Authentic-Coach-Vintage-and-Classic-Leather-/10000000062579034/g.html


If you have any questions on any of the information in the guides and list, just ask.

And here's a page from the 1986 Summer catalog showing that style:
Click to expand...

Wow!! Great info....
Interestingly SALEAREA is who I purchased it from.....:)
*Hope that is appropriate*
Look for more from me.
I tend to overdo what ever I decide to do.
Yes, its a sickness.

Value all of the information greatly.
 
#6,405
Hyacinth said:
I've never seen it before, but would a fakes maker actually create new charms of mostly vintage bags? :shrugs:
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BeenBurned said:
Hmm. I'm not comfortable with it. I don't think it was made by Coach.

The enameling on the handbags looks concave where it would probably be smooth and even with the edges. The charms are handbags from (seemingly) too wide a timespan of when the bags were made. (Usually the charms are bags from the same era.) Coach's handbag charms with which I'm familiar have "stitching" or some other pave/detailing on the handles. The logos on the backs of some of the charms look odd although I believe the lozenge is authentic.
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Thank you!
 
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