Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
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• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[SloaneTailor]

Fake. Always-fake serial prefix, date code from 3 years before the style was even introduced,

I thought so. Thank you!

 

[KittKatt]

Good afternoon! When someone has a chance, can you please take a look at this shoulder pouch that I just purchased? Thank you in advance!!

Seller: shop_sole
Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/393386142916
Comments: Is this more likely from the 1980’s (rather than 1970’s as the listing suggests?)

 

[Hyacinth]

Good afternoon! When someone has a chance, can you please take a look at this shoulder pouch that I just purchased? Thank you in advance!!

Seller: shop_sole
Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/393386142916
Comments: Is this more likely from the 1980’s (rather than 1970’s as the listing suggests?)

The format and wording of the creed stamp indicates that it was made between 1988 and 1990, maybe even as late as 1992. It's a 5120 Shoulder Pouch Small. I think that style first was produced around 1980-81 but dates of early pre-catalog styles are always hard to pin down.

And a warning about dates - several early 2000s Coach "guides" posted at various websites had the dates completely messed up and were as much as 10 years off. Unfortunately some sellers are still using them even though they've been mentioned often as being inaccurate and undependable, as well as just too darn old to be useful. Don't EVER depend on each and every Coach seller to know dates, names, numbers, and bag history especially when the name Bonnie Cashin is invoked. An accurate dating history is posted in the Salearea Guides right here in the Coach Shopping forum. The first 13 posts are a history of that history.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

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[KittKatt]

The format and wording of the creed stamp indicates that it was made between 1988 and 1990, maybe even as late as 1992. It's a 5120 Shoulder Pouch Small. I think that style first was produced around 1980-81 but dates of early pre-catalog styles are always hard to pin down.

And a warning about dates - several early 2000s Coach "guides" posted at various websites had the dates completely messed up and were as much as 10 years off. Unfortunately some sellers are still using them even though they've been mentioned often as being inaccurate and undependable, as well as just too darn old to be useful. Don't EVER depend on each and every Coach seller to know dates, names, numbers, and bag history especially when the name Bonnie Cashin is invoked. An accurate dating history is posted in the Salearea Guides right here in the Coach Shopping forum. The first 13 posts are a history of that history.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

forum.purseblog.com

Thank you for the authentication and the additional info, Hyacinth!

 

[Farlynn]

FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
Item:coach leather purse with front pockets
Listing number: I don't know how to get it
Seller and site where listed: Andrea Whitney and site Mercari
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m64675461724/
Comments: I attached a screenshot of the listing since I don't have the item number. Also the leather looks really shiny in the picture, should I be concerned about that?

 

[klc2021]

If you mean the one with the 056-2130 serial number, that one is much too old by about 10 years to be from the Equestrian line. It was made in the late 1980s, not the 1990s, and could be a 5190 Envelope Portfolio from the Business line and measures 16 by 11 inches according to the catalog.

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Hi @Hyacinth! Apologies for the delay between posts, but I had a question about this potential id.

This bag arrived today and on closer inspection it’s not an Envelope Portfolio due to some differences I’ll list below. It is probably part of a feminine professional line. But as you’ve already authenticated, should I move this to another thread? Maybe Vintage due to age? Just let me know and I’ll move.

The first bag I asked to authenticate WAS an Envelope Portfolio, but my 056-2130 doesn’t have the same characteristics. It’s a similar size, but has two separate straps that attach to the front and back in the middle, the straps that are sewn in the round like thick piping, there are front and back pockets in addition to the main compartment and interior zippered pocket, and there’s a magnetic closure under the flap. I’ve attached some clearer pictures.

It's definitely not an Equestrian Shopper, but it's like that one made larger with tube-like straps and a little tab epaulet holding them on, like a Broadway Bag with longer straps. I'm sorry for the poor comparison, I'm not familiar enough with the style variations to offer a better comparison.

Any ideas? (I stuck it next to my Willis for size reference.)

 

[BeanChanAshi]

It's authentic.

Thank you, I appreciate it! Sorry for my late response.

 

[whateve]

FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
Item:coach leather purse with front pockets
Listing number: I don't know how to get it
Seller and site where listed: Andrea Whitney and site Mercari
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m64675461724/
Comments: I attached a screenshot of the listing since I don't have the item number. Also the leather looks really shiny in the picture, should I be concerned about that?

It's authentic. I would be worried about the appearance of the leather. It looks like it has been oiled. Also it has verdigris.

 

[michynyc]

Me again. Appreciate the help

Item: I have no idea
Listing number: N/A
Seller and site where listed: liamako on Poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-bag-604e960e09d76060dfb61225
Comments: This can't be real, can it? It looks very stiff. And on the last pic I see the back of the strap going over the top is misaligned. It is a style I have never seen but I am still a bit of a newbie.

Thanks!

 

[Syaki]

Hello,

Can you please authenticate the following:

Item: coach Patricia

Site ebay

Seller: Karspierce

Link: Look at this on eBay

VINTAGE COACH PATRICIA'S LEGACY BROWN LEATHER CROSSBODY FLAP BAG EUC | eBay

Full length open slip pocket under flap (great for phone). flap & zip top closure. interior leather creed. seldom see one in this great condition.

www.ebay.com

Thank you.

 

[BeenBurned]

Me again. Appreciate the help

Item: I have no idea
Listing number: N/A
Seller and site where listed: liamako on Poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-bag-604e960e09d76060dfb61225
Comments: This can't be real, can it? It looks very stiff. And on the last pic I see the back of the strap going over the top is misaligned. It is a style I have never seen but I am still a bit of a newbie.

Thanks!

It's very fake.

ETA: Do not buy from liamako!

Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-leather-red-bag-607a34c66e2846ad09a7369c
Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/VINTAGE-COACH-leather-crossbody-bag-navy-blue-607a3572e97e480efbca0dd7
Sold probably fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-crossbody-bag-6054cf5367bd91cbb25f41a3
Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-leather-bag-60357bcc3cda889b28f7c649
Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/COACH-wallet-5c2818b0bb761544a0cb298a
Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/LIKE-NEW-COACH-WALLET-5ad148b29d20f0e173a571fe

Current questionable: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-crossbody-bag-60577ea1941f17e21fcba614

There are probably more fakes but I gave up going through them.

 

[houseof999]

HELLO-
My apologies. As my post indicated I am NEW to the site and wasn't sure if the initial post came through so I only sent the post again in case it was not received since as you indicated it was sent late last night. Since the post was sent out late, I did not expect a response at that hour nor was my resending it again an attempt to force a response from you quicker. If that was the impression that you received, that was not my intention as I only was concerned it did not go through as other responses were received. I appreciate your reply and will await a response as time permits. THANK YOU!!!

Which seller did you buy from on Poshmark? I see a few things that I don't like. Please provide the link to your item's listing.

 

[michynyc]

It's very fake.

ETA: Do not buy from liamako!

Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-leather-red-bag-607a34c66e2846ad09a7369c
Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/VINTAGE-COACH-leather-crossbody-bag-navy-blue-607a3572e97e480efbca0dd7
Sold probably fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-crossbody-bag-6054cf5367bd91cbb25f41a3
Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-leather-bag-60357bcc3cda889b28f7c649
Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/COACH-wallet-5c2818b0bb761544a0cb298a
Sold fake: https://poshmark.com/listing/LIKE-NEW-COACH-WALLET-5ad148b29d20f0e173a571fe

Current questionable: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-crossbody-bag-60577ea1941f17e21fcba614

There are probably more fakes but I gave up going through them.

OMG!!! That is HORRIBLE!!!! Something definitely didn't look right with this.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi Authenticators!
New to the site. I recently purchased this Coach Field Tote bag from Poshmark and need some help with authenticating. The hardware looks good but the Made in Vietnam tag on the inside seam is a little concerning as I don't see the same tag in my other Coach Field Tote bag that is in the bigger 40 version. I appreciate the help!

Which seller did you buy from on Poshmark? I see a few things that I don't like. Please provide the link to your item's listing.

I want to see the seller ID and listing also but I'm positive that the bag is fake. There are so many problems.

Here's just one example showing problems:

 

[ewar1080]

Hi could someone authenticate this bag?

Item: Vintage Coach Court Bag
Listing number: N/A
Seller and site where listed: Liltone99, Poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Court-vintage-purse-bag-9870-USA-black-605d2de881a36c6f2b699f6b
Comments: I bought this purse and now realize that it might be fake. Using my brief research, I looked at the coach creed for this bag and it says “Made in United States of America” but also has the style number underneath (9870).

What I learned online was that in the 1970s, Coach used to write this “Made in USA” label but wrote a unique bag serial number below the old creed text (this purse uses this old creed text). Later on, Coach inserted its “Made in X” information within the new creed and then made the number beneath the text informative with a style number (in this case for a court bag, XXX-9870). I am writing this here in case any of this is incorrect. I used this website: http://vintagecoachbags.com/index.php/authenticity-guide/.

This bag combines these old and new practices of older “Made in USA” placement, older creed text, and newer use of “XXX-9870” which has never happened, I think?

What do you guys think? Thanks so much.