Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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usMichigann said:
NO. If you mean on Purse Forum, I will not report anything as fake as I am no expert. I got on that page one time by mistake & was only asking to authenticate 2 bags. I thought I was on Authenticate This Coach. I won't make that mistake again.
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No, I'm not talking about the listings you asked about yesterday.

I was referring to your comment in post #5820 where you said that you reported to ebay about the listing for the Coach-inspired fragrance:
usMichigann said:
Thanks for detailed reply. I had already reported this to eBay because of "Coach" in the title to describe an item that is not an authorized Coach product also search manipulation. Most likely, they won't remove it.
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The listing isn't for a counterfeit item and shouldn't be reported as such. It CAN be reported for key word spamming. Your use of "also" implies that you reported for 2 violations. There's only one violation in that listing and it's search manipulation/KWS.
 
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BeenBurned said:
No, I'm not talking about the listings you asked about yesterday.

I was referring to your comment in post #5820 where you said that you reported to ebay about the listing for the Coach-inspired fragrance:


The listing isn't for a counterfeit item and shouldn't be reported as such. It CAN be reported for key word spamming. Your use of "also" implies that you reported for 2 violations. There's only one violation in that listing and it's search manipulation/KWS.
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No, only Coach in title. And no, I'd always ask about a bag here first now that I know about this knowledgeable resource.
The fake Coach I was sold recently, although I reported & called about it, eBay took no action what so ever until after the bag was sold 2 times on eBay; after I asked about it here. Once I received, it was an obvious fake that queensattic111 insisted she'd purchased at a major department store. My post about this is a couple pages back. I know now where to ask about anything questionable. It's a shame some sellers, like the one just mentioned are less than honest. Yes, people can make mistakes, but the way she obtained this bag was NOT at a major department store. She asked for FB revision & I declined because she still insisted the bag was authentic.
 
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usMichigann said:
queensattic111

She asked for FB revision & I declined because she still insisted the bag was authentic.
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I'm glad you declined the feedback revision request. Obviously queensattic111 didn't learn a thing and in leaving a neg, you were able to warn future buyers. (Sadly, the next buyer of her fake didn't recognize it as such, but unfortunately, you can't save buyers from themselves!)
 
#5,826
usMichigann said:
Thanks. I was positive it was fake, but I'd never want to unjustly leave negative feedback. I would not have left negative if the seller had not resold the bag. It was reported to eBay BEFORE she relisted it, but nothing was done.
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Just a word of advice - when leaving Feedback for a known or confirmed fake, DON"T mention price. Price has absolutely no connection to what's genuine and what isn't, and can never prove something's fake by itself. The original Negative FB should list the proveable facts - the actual details that prove something's fake. Fake or invalid serial number or codes, fake hardware, etc. Stick to the details and facts and keep it under 80 letters and characters.

Mentioning price just gives the seller an excuse to question your reason for filing a Neg and makes it sound like buyers remorse or like a buyer looking for a partial refund.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Just a word of advice - when leaving Feedback for a known or confirmed fake, DON"T mention price. Price has absolutely no connection to what's genuine and what isn't, and can never prove something's fake by itself. The original Negative FB should list the proveable facts - the actual details that prove something's fake. Fake or invalid serial number or codes, fake hardware, etc. Stick to the details and facts and keep it under 80 letters and characters.

Mentioning price just gives the seller an excuse to question your reason for filing a Neg and makes it sound like buyers remorse or like a buyer looking for a partial refund.
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Point taken. But, that was in my reply to her denial about bag being fake & I was speaking about when she re-listed at BIN for $15 for a fast sale to the next "victim" before eBay noticed & removed the listing. I agree that price had nothing to do with the sale to me. I paid more & it was a great price if it had been a Coach bag.
 
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Coach Bean Bag that I won on eBay

This is the one I mentioned yesterday. After purchasing this on eBay, the listing was removed for authenticity. This was maybe 2 years ago & I'd never heard of a Coach Bean Bag. I then Googled to read about them, concluding that most were fake. Please give this a look. Approx. 8" H x 9 1/2" L x 2" D Has no exterior pockets, a large slip under the front flap + one large backwall zip pocket. Thanks

Sorry, I keep getting upload error

I'll try again
 
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Coach White & Brown Bean Bag Photos - I posted the creed, but I have tried several times with different pictures & just keep getting an error when trying to load more pictures

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintag...item4d31cdc75b

Measurements are above & it looks exactly like the bag for sale in the above link - LISTING #331548051291 My bag has no edge wear & it has a matching brown leather hang tag.
 

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usMichigann said:
Coach White & Brown Bean Bag Photos - I posted the creed, but I have tried several times with different pictures & just keep getting an error when trying to load more pictures

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintag...item4d31cdc75b

Measurements are above & it looks exactly like the bag for sale in the above link - LISTING #331548051291 My bag has no edge wear & it has a matching brown leather hang tag.
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Please keep trying to load your photos, something "just like mine" won't do. We need to see the exact details of the creed stamp. If you can post them at Photobucket or better yet, some easier to use free site (registration is required though) like imgur.com, you can just post the link once they're uploaded.

ETA - Is the photo you just added of your actual bag? If so, it's genuine. The REAL Bean Bag creeds have to match the stamp on this keyfob exactly, down to the the Coach logo, stamping flaws, and exact spacing between the words. There are a few fakes that are really close, which is why we always need to see the exact creed. (The white Riding Bag Spectator in the listing you posted is also genuine).
 

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Hyacinth said:
Please keep trying to load your photos, something "just like mine" won't do. We need to see the exact details of the creed stamp. If you can post them at Photobucket or better yet, some easier to use free site (registration is required though) like imgur.com, you can just post the link once they're uploaded.

ETA - Is the photo you just added of your actual bag? If so, it's genuine. The REAL Bean Bag creeds have to match the stamp on this keyfob exactly, down to the the Coach logo, stamping flaws, and exact spacing between the words. There are a few fakes that are really close, which is why we always need to see the exact creed. (The white Riding Bag Spectator in the listing you posted is also genuine).
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As an example of what I mean about some Bean Bag stamps being very close fakes, here's one of the really "good" fakes (the serial number 4437-576 is also on most of the updated Fakes Lists):
 

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Hyacinth said:
Please keep trying to load your photos, something "just like mine" won't do. We need to see the exact details of the creed stamp. If you can post them at Photobucket or better yet, some easier to use free site (registration is required though) like imgur.com, you can just post the link once they're uploaded.

ETA - Is the photo you just added of your actual bag? If so, it's genuine. The REAL Bean Bag creeds have to match the stamp on this keyfob exactly, down to the the Coach logo, stamping flaws, and exact spacing between the words. There are a few fakes that are really close, which is why we always need to see the exact creed. (The white Riding Bag Spectator in the listing you posted is also genuine).
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Yes, I was aware that you needed to see the creed & yes, that is a picture of my bag's creed 063 - 3049. Thanks for the confirmation that it's real, also for pointing out the spacing & giving it a name. All these years I thought it was fake because as I stated in a previous post yesterday, after I purchased it, eBay removed the listing. Mine is in very good condition too! Thanks again.
 
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ChevaliereNoir said:
I'm afraid I've got a negative experience with libertystore already. They've ignored my 5 requests for a combined shipping invoice on the 4 items I purchased within their rule of 3 days (the first invoice request was made immediately after the fourth item ended). When I try to pay, shipping is not calculated correctly. They've initiated NPB (probably automatically) despite my invoice requests. This is not good.
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Good luck with your dealings with Liberty Store & don't count on your items being smoke free.
 
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usMichigann said:
Yes, I was aware that you needed to see the creed & yes, that is a picture of my bag's creed 063 - 3049. Thanks for the confirmation that it's real, also for pointing out the spacing & giving it a name. All these years I thought it was fake because as I stated in a previous post yesterday, after I purchased it, eBay removed the listing. Mine is in very good condition too! Thanks again.
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Oh, one more thing, do the numbers in my white & brown Coach Riding Bag Spectator mean anything? 063 - 3049 They don't start out with No or have any letters. This must have been from when every Coach had individual numbers & could be registered? Thanks again
 
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