Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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ChevaliereNoir said:
Item: COACH Red Leather Vintage Regis Small Shoulder Bag Purse Italy 4404 NICE COND
Listing number: 221756095188
Seller: usmichigann
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221756095188
Comments: Is this one of the Italian exceptions to the N month code? Based on Hyacinth's swatches in the reference thread for Spring 96 Madisons, is this bag the garnet color? Thank you, experts! :flowers:
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Yes, the N month code is seen often in Italian creeds. It is authentic. The color is probably garnet.
 
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I sent a message to goodwill about the fake bag pointing out the problems with the creed. She misunderstood what I wrote.
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=21304770.
I received the reply below. I then sent another message back, with photos of creeds from other bags as she told me to compare with others. I also pointed out a few other things wrong with the creed and how the measurements of the bag were not the same. Checked for a reply first thing this morning and bag is no longer in my open order list. Thanks everyone! :tpfrox:

"Thank you for including specific concerns in your message - knowing what has caused your reservations gives me a place to start. :)
I can certainly see why your authentication resources had reservations about the bag; if I had to rely on the photos alone I would be quite wary as well, not being able to clearly see the details I rely on when determining authenticity. However, having examined it in person, I do stand behind the initial assessment. The quirks you mentioned - a slight variation of the font, partial ‘framing’ around the style number, etc - are things I have seen many times in the past when examining Coach bags, vintage in particular.
If you search for "Coach 9804" on ebay, etsy, bonanza, etc. and compare, you'll see that several reliable sellers with excellent feedback have posted this bag style, with the same font used in the creed, the partial framing of the style number, etc. While it’s possible that all of them inadvertently sold counterfeits versions, it’s not likely.
Please let us know if you have further concerns - I’d be happy to look into them."
 

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#5,639
maramd said:
I sent a message to goodwill about the fake bag pointing out the problems with the creed. She misunderstood what I wrote.
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=21304770.
I received the reply below. I then sent another message back, with photos of creeds from other bags as she told me to compare with others. I also pointed out a few other things wrong with the creed and how the measurements of the bag were not the same. Checked for a reply first thing this morning and bag is no longer in my open order list. Thanks everyone! :tpfrox:

"Thank you for including specific concerns in your message - knowing what has caused your reservations gives me a place to start. :)
I can certainly see why your authentication resources had reservations about the bag; if I had to rely on the photos alone I would be quite wary as well, not being able to clearly see the details I rely on when determining authenticity. However, having examined it in person, I do stand behind the initial assessment. The quirks you mentioned - a slight variation of the font, partial ‘framing’ around the style number, etc - are things I have seen many times in the past when examining Coach bags, vintage in particular.
If you search for "Coach 9804" on ebay, etsy, bonanza, etc. and compare, you'll see that several reliable sellers with excellent feedback have posted this bag style, with the same font used in the creed, the partial framing of the style number, etc. While it’s possible that all of them inadvertently sold counterfeits versions, it’s not likely.
Please let us know if you have further concerns - I’d be happy to look into them."
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Hi - Not sure if you want to take this any further, but the creed pics that Goodwill rep is showing to compare are for "D" plant bags, and the bag they were selling looks like "B" plant...unless my eyes are deceiving me?
 
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thecollector629 said:
Hi - Not sure if you want to take this any further, but the creed pics that Goodwill rep is showing to compare are for "D" plant bags, and the bag they were selling looks like "B" plant...unless my eyes are deceiving me?
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I got a reply to my second email and she said since the comparisons were from different plants, that would explain the difference in the creed.
But, since I mentioned the Purse Forum in my second email, she said she removed the bag from my cart because she highly respects their opinions.

I am going to try and find another B plant creed just to satisfy my curiosity. I know it needs to be same plant, same year to really compare.

Just wasn't comfortable going through with the purchase.
 
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