Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[DooneyTune]

Hello, I have a Coach bag recently purchased from Letgo- wondering if it is authentic... when I polished the strap hardware, one of the pieces appears to be plated, not solid brass. Not sure if that is normal for this bag, if there was a strap replacement, or if it is a fake. Thanks for any input or advice.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello, I have a Coach bag recently purchased from Letgo- wondering if it is authentic... when I polished the strap hardware, one of the pieces appears to be plated, not solid brass. Not sure if that is normal for this bag, if there was a strap replacement, or if it is a fake. Thanks for any input or advice.View attachment 4878508View attachment 4878510View attachment 4878511View attachment 4878512View attachment 4878513View attachment 4878514

It's an authentic Weston shopper made in 2000.

In the future, please include the link to the online listing (even if no longer an active listing) and the seller ID.

 

[DooneyTune]

It's an authentic Weston shopper made in 2000.

In the future, please include the link to the online listing (even if no longer an active listing) and the seller ID.

Thank you and sorry about the missing information! Letgo just got bought out/shut down, so the listing and seller information no longer exist. The strap hardware is what I found confusing- I thought that all the old Coach hardware was solid brass?

 

[BeenBurned]

Thank you and sorry about the missing information! Letgo just got bought out/shut down, so the listing and seller information no longer exist. The strap hardware is what I found confusing- I thought that all the old Coach hardware was solid brass?

@Hyacinth and @whateve can probably give you more specific dates but by 2000 (when your bag was made), they weren't using solid brass any longer.

ETA: I found a post from Hyacinth:

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

IMPORTANT READ-ME Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please. For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread. Please follow the following requests: Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this...

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"Coach had stopped using solid brass hardware on almost all of their bags by 1990."

 

[whateve]

Hi there!
Do you think this bag is authentic?
I have never seen a stamp besides the creed or the outlet stamps near the creed. You can see it to the left of the creed. Part of it says "regular"
Not sure what style this is but I also can ask that in the ID this coach thread!

Coach Vintage British Tan Leather Crossbody Bag

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It's fine. The stamp says irregular. Most of the time we can't figure out what makes the bag irregular. The seller doesn't provide measurements. It might be a compartment bag 9850.

 

[whateve]

Hello! Would you please authenticate. I found this at my local goodwill, hoping it’s real because i love the color!

It's fine.

 

[whateve]

Hello! I’m honestly hurting myself by asking, because this bag’s way out of my current price range, but when you guys have the time, I’d love to know if this beaut is authentic or not. Thank you very much!

Item: COACH RARE PLUM Legacy Rambler Shoulder Crossbody Bag #9061

Seller: hobo_creations

Listing number: 193461296104

Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-RARE-PLUM-Legacy-Rambler-Shoulder-Crossbody-Bag-9061/193461296104

It's authentic.

 

[VSOP]

Hello authenticators,
Can you please take a look at this and let me know if authentic?

item:COACH 9965 LEGACY TRAIL CROSSBODY BAG
Seller: casey1957
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/COACH-9965-LEGACY-TRAIL-CROSSBODY-BAG-5f5941cd16295878db65318a

 

[whateve]

Hello authenticators,
Can you please take a look at this and let me know if authentic?

item:COACH 9965 LEGACY TRAIL CROSSBODY BAG
Seller: casey1957
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/COACH-9965-LEGACY-TRAIL-CROSSBODY-BAG-5f5941cd16295878db65318a

It's fine but is not, nor has it ever been, called a trail bag. Sheesh! I wish people would stop propagating that mistake! It's a Legacy small flap.

 

[VSOP]

It's fine but is not, nor has it ever been, called a trail bag. Sheesh! I wish people would stop propagating that mistake! It's a Legacy small flap.

Lol. These sellers are monkey see, monkey do.
I was wondering why Coach would have two different bags going by the same name. I bought a Coach trail bag during NAS.

Thank you for confirming.

 

[ljsmommy]

Good evening Authenticators.

I have these two recent "finds" that I'm hoping one of you will authenticate. Both are from eBay auctions that I won. I realize my request is backwards from the preferred order. I've done my homework and the only conclusion I've come to is that the only consistency when authenticating vintage Coach, is the inconsistency. I've been holding back on asking because I didn't want to question a seller's integrity unnecessarily. However, these two purchases are driving me nuts after all my researching and lurking. They were inexpensive but I saw one of the sellers has another one listed. Thanks for any info you can provide.

Item: Black 9997
Listing #: 293749132227
Seller/Site: moll-mcdow/eBay
Link: Listing
Comments: I have seen this called a Legacy Zip. Shape seems right but measurements don't match up with others and some have feet. There appears to be multiples of different versions, which means probably a lot of fakes floating around. A simple search brings up this and this.

Item: Tan 5180
Listing #: 333742393462
Seller/Site: silvoy/eBay
Link: Listing
Comments: I noticed when I dunked this briefcase/messenger, the hang tag was spongy and odd. I realize a fake or mismatched hang tag could've been added along the way. That, in itself, didn't alarm me. The creed has a double border around Coach...looks odd. The date seems out of place from others I found online and if made in 1996, wouldn't it have the "made in the United States" within the creed and not under?

Sorry to the sellers for questioning the authenticity and thank you to the authenticators for all the work you do!

 

[Hyacinth]

Good evening Authenticators.

I have these two recent "finds" that I'm hoping one of you will authenticate. Both are from eBay auctions that I won. I realize my request is backwards from the preferred order. I've done my homework and the only conclusion I've come to is that the only consistency when authenticating vintage Coach, is the inconsistency. I've been holding back on asking because I didn't want to question a seller's integrity unnecessarily. However, these two purchases are driving me nuts after all my researching and lurking. They were inexpensive but I saw one of the sellers has another one listed. Thanks for any info you can provide.

Item: Black 9997
Listing #: 293749132227
Seller/Site: moll-mcdow/eBay
Link: Listing
Comments: I have seen this called a Legacy Zip. Shape seems right but measurements don't match up with others and some have feet. There appears to be multiples of different versions, which means probably a lot of fakes floating around. A simple search brings up this and this.

Item: Tan 5180
Listing #: 333742393462
Seller/Site: silvoy/eBay
Link: Listing
Comments: I noticed when I dunked this briefcase/messenger, the hang tag was spongy and odd. I realize a fake or mismatched hang tag could've been added along the way. That, in itself, didn't alarm me. The creed has a double border around Coach...looks odd. The date seems out of place from others I found online and if made in 1996, wouldn't it have the "made in the United States" within the creed and not under?

Sorry to the sellers for questioning the authenticity and thank you to the authenticators for all the work you do!

First of all, welcome to tPF!

Second - it's not important what a seller calls a bag, many sellers haven't a clue what a style's correct name is, or when it was made, or what the correct measurements are (a lot depends on where on the bag the measurements were taken), or whether or not it was designed by Bonnie Cashin (most of them were NOT.) Assume that at least 25 percent of sellers get it wrong.

What matters is the style NUMBER which is the second half of the serial number in bags made from 1994 to the present with letters as well as numbers in the serial number. Only genuine bags with the same style numbers can have their details compared. Genuine Coaches made before 1994 have unique and individual random serial numbers that don't include style numbers or production codes in their serials. Don't ever depend on names, Coach reuses them often for totally different styles and lines too.

The six Salearea Guides posted here at tPF are a unique primer into a lot of Coach information especially concerning vintage bags and I recommend reading them before you even start to dig deeper. The entire thread, and it's only 4 pages, has infomation and updates that can save you time, frustration, and money. They can be confusing in the beginning but will start to make a lot more sense once you get deeper into Coach:

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

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The first one is called a Legacy Small Zip. The one you're asking about is genuine and this is Coach's catalog page from the year it was made:


Of the other 2 examples you mentioned, the first one is genuine and the second one can't be authenticated without a clear readable photo of the creed stamp and serial number. Don't ever think something's fake or questionable because the measurements aren't the same. If other bags have feet, theyre either 'not the same style number, or they may be fake.

On the tan briefcase - many Coaches have had the hangtags replaced. Some of the tags might be fake or just heavily used, usually as keyfobs. Creeds and serial numbers are explained in the Salearea guides. I don't know why you believe this one to have been made in 1996? It's genuine but from between 1990 and 1994. The seller didn't get the date right either, see my previous comments, but it doesn't seem to say anywhere in the listing that it's from 1996.

 

[Hyacinth]

Re 620jean: As I commented, the seller does have a history; it's not a long history but a "history," nonetheless.

In the HOS post above, the fake bag was wannabe-Court bag. This picture is from that listing and from my post made in April, 2020. (I added the arrow just now to show my issue with the seller.)

From Apr 15, 2020
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And this is a current LOT listing in which she includes the previously removed fake. Notice the same bend in the flap of the fake bag.

Lot Of 8 Handbags Wallets including Coach, Kate Spade & More | eBay

HANDBAGS AND WALLETS.

www.ebay.com

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And if there's any doubt that the seller didn't try to sneak the fake into the lot, these are the two pictures.

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Exactly the same wear pattern in the piping in that corner too.

 

[art//heaux]

It's authentic.

Thanks, I appreciate it! Like I needed one less thing stopping me from making an irresponsible purchase lol

 

[BeenBurned]

Good evening Authenticators.

I have these two recent "finds" that I'm hoping one of you will authenticate. Both are from eBay auctions that I won. I realize my request is backwards from the preferred order. I've done my homework and the only conclusion I've come to is that the only consistency when authenticating vintage Coach, is the inconsistency. I've been holding back on asking because I didn't want to question a seller's integrity unnecessarily. However, these two purchases are driving me nuts after all my researching and lurking. They were inexpensive but I saw one of the sellers has another one listed. Thanks for any info you can provide.


Item: Tan 5180
Listing #: 333742393462
Seller/Site: silvoy/eBay
Link: Listing
Comments: I noticed when I dunked this briefcase/messenger, the hang tag was spongy and odd. I realize a fake or mismatched hang tag could've been added along the way. That, in itself, didn't alarm me. The creed has a double border around Coach...looks odd. The date seems out of place from others I found online and if made in 1996, wouldn't it have the "made in the United States" within the creed and not under?

Sorry to the sellers for questioning the authenticity and thank you to the authenticators for all the work you do!

First of all, welcome to tPF!

Second - it's not important what a seller calls a bag, many sellers haven't a clue what a style's correct name is, or when it was made, or what the correct measurements are (a lot depends on where on the bag the measurements were taken), or whether or not it was designed by Bonnie Cashin (most of them were NOT.) Assume that at least 25 percent of sellers get it wrong.

What matters is the style NUMBER which is the second half of the serial number in bags made from 1994 to the present with letters as well as numbers in the serial number. Only genuine bags with the same style numbers can have their details compared. Genuine Coaches made before 1994 have unique and individual random serial numbers that don't include style numbers or production codes in their serials. Don't ever depend on names, Coach reuses them often for totally different styles and lines too.

The six Salearea Guides posted here at tPF are a unique primer into a lot of Coach information especially concerning vintage bags and I recommend reading them before you even start to dig deeper. The entire thread, and it's only 4 pages, has infomation and updates that can save you time, frustration, and money. They can be confusing in the beginning but will start to make a lot more sense once you get deeper into Coach:

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

forum.purseblog.com

On the tan briefcase - many Coaches have had the hangtags replaced. Some of the tags might be fake or just heavily used, usually as keyfobs. Creeds and serial numbers are explained in the Salearea guides. I don't know why you believe this one to have been made in 1996? It's genuine but from between 1990 and 1994. The seller didn't get the date right either, see my previous comments, but it doesn't seem to say anywhere in the listing that it's from 1996.

First, welcome! I'm glad you found us.

NEVER, EVER be ashamed or apologetic for verifying authenticity of items you purchased. These are strangers and while some sellers make honest mistakes, other sellers know EXACTLY what they're selling and don't care about ripping off a buyer.

And because there are so many fakes, some of which are very close, even if buying from an experienced seller with a good reputation, it never hurts to have an item looked at.

Second, and this is important! because you are going to want to open a dispute!

I have a comment about the second item, the tan briefcase.

The listing you posted from seller silvoy is a current and still active listing.

Since you said you said you already dunked the bag and expressed concerns (in addition to the hangtag) about the bag, it was clear it was a completed/sold listing. You also mentioned "a 1996 bag" so that's clearly not the listing you posted which is from 1990 to 1994.

As Hyacinth told you, the current listing for the bag you posted is authentic but the bag you received is this one and is fake. (Copy of same/similar style.)
This is the bag you bought on October 4:

COACH Leather Briefcase - Womens Tan Shoulder Bag with Strap & Handle | eBay

COACH Womans Leather Briefcase - Tan Shoulder Bag with Strap & Handle.

www.ebay.com

Let silvoy know she sold a fake and tell her you want a refund. You are NOT responsible for return shipping if she wants the fake bag back. She must pay shipping.

And this is the creed of the fake.