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Can anyone guess when this was made? Here is the creed. It has the 3 dash 4 serial numbers in the creed:
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In reading Saleareas guide it looks to me as if it’s late 80s but before 89 when Coach switched to the 4 dash 3 serial numbers. Is there any way to know? When was the Lindsay bag first made?

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Thanks!

One of the Salearea Guides was modified in 2018 to say that a few serial numbers in the older 3+4 all number format are sometimes found in bags from the early 1990s, maybe made in 1992 or as late as early 1993. The one in your photos could be one of those or it could be from late 1989, depending on the style. It's almost impossible to be precise about dates during that late 1980s-early 1990s period because there's no way to know when the bag was actually made. I'm guessing 1989 or maybe early 1990s, because it has an outlet stamp, and that probably puts it around 1990 or the early '90s, but there's no way to know how long the bag was sitting in the store before being sent to the outlets.

Since it's a Lindsay and that style was apparently introduced in Spring 1991, it's probably one of the oddballs that used the older 3+4 serial number format. So it's 1991 at the earliest.

Confused yet? Your guess is about as good as mine. Anyway, it's not that important unless it becomes a question of authentication.,

BTW, are youn using an older copy of the Salearea Guides? There's a newer version that I updated in 2018 posted and Pinned right here in the Coach Shopping forum:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/page-2#post-32253054

It includes these additions (bolded) among several others others which you don't seem to have in your copy, note the addition of the part about the 3+4 format being used in some 1991-92 bags:
"Once serial numbers began to be used, they originally had 7 numbers with the abbreviation for Number "No" in front (serials without that "No" in front usually mean Korean-made fakes), then 3 numbers, a dash, and 4 more numbers (No 123-4567). Somewhere around 1989-1990 they changed to 4 numbers, the dash and 3 numbers (No 1234-567) and this format was used until 1994. (There are also a handful of bags from 1991-92 that still used the older 3+4 number format). The serial numbers were completely random and had nothing at all to to with the style number of the bags, so there's no way to learn the style number from the serial number of a bag made before 1994. Every all-number serial was unique to each bag and never repeated, multiple bags with exactly the same all-number serials are very probably fake. (Serial numbers are a complicated subject and one that I'll cover in another post.)"

The complete updated Salearea Guides posts begin here:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/
 
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View attachment 4720463 View attachment 4720464 View attachment 4720466 View attachment 4720470 Please authenticate and identify...I can’t wait to rehab this one! Thank you!!!
9 1/2” l x 8 1/2” w top x 10” w bottom
22” strap drop-shortest
Interior zip pocket, rear pocket

It looks ok. I think the turnlock assembly may have already been replaced, if you can post a close-up of the turnlock plate and the prongs holding it together as shown on your photo of the back of the front flap, I may be able to tell for sure. I don't think that's the original turnlock.
 
Can anyone authenticate this bag:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233530442020?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&fromMakeTrack=true

I'm familiar with the Scooter (9893) but I've never seen the Spectator version with a serial number in this format (looks like 008-0169). Thanks!
It's authentic. The spectator version is style number #6893. I have a catalog page for it dated Holiday 1991. Since it was made prior to 1994, the serial number is random and does not include the style number.
 
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