Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[kthybrown007]

Hello, I was looking at a bag on Poshmark and thrown a little by the # on the Creed. K2P-9525. I thought if the system started in 1994, 02 would indicate 2002. But wouldn’t just one digit suggest the 90s and 2 mean 1992 which would predate the 1994 system? The bag looks like I would expect otherwise. I couldn’t get the photos to paste, but this is a Poshmark listing with the title “Vintage Coach Black NYC Stewardess Bag 9525”
Thank you so much.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello, I was looking at a bag on Poshmark and thrown a little by the # on the Creed. K2P-9525. I thought if the system started in 1994, 02 would indicate 2002. But wouldn’t just one digit suggest the 90s and 2 mean 1992 which would predate the 1994 system? The bag looks like I would expect otherwise. I couldn’t get the photos to paste, but this is a Poshmark listing with the title “Vintage Coach Black NYC Stewardess Bag 9525”
Thank you so much.

Read the Salearea Guides posted and Pinned to the top of every indexed page in this Coach Shopping thread for information on Creeds and on Serial numbers.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/

And the bag CAN'T be authenticated without a link and photos, see Post One in this thread and provide the required information.

 

[TracyDi]

The first one, the "Patricia's Legacy", is FAKE. The second one looks ok.

ETA - I enlarged and turned the creed pic you asked about in your previous post about the Willis, see my addition. It's definitely fake.

Must have been someone else regarding the Willis. I haven't inquired about one. Hopefully the correct person sees your note.

Goodnight everyone. Thanks again for your help.

 

[Hyacinth]

Must have been someone else regarding the Willis. I haven't inquired about one. Hopefully the correct person sees your note.

Goodnight everyone. Thanks again for your help.

Whoops! My mistake, it was Alexkarrots.

 

[BeenBurned]

I'm curious about opinions on this bag. I am not feeling the love!

(The seller also has a history.)

seller chuck_cj17
https://www.ebay.com/itm/323977359808

I have examples of "R" plant creeds, some "definitely fake," some "probably fake" and some "possibly ok" but none examples of a creed with a definitely authentic R plant code.

 

[whateve]

I'm curious about opinions on this bag. I am not feeling the love!

(The seller also has a history.)

seller chuck_cj17
https://www.ebay.com/itm/323977359808

I have examples of "R" plant creeds, some "definitely fake," some "probably fake" and some "possibly ok" but none examples of a creed with a definitely authentic R plant code.

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I have this picture of the same style saved in my files as possibly okay. Then I have this Willis creed saved as probably fake because the frame of the creed is too square, although the bag didn't have any mistakes. I don't have any labeled as positively authentic except for Thailand creeds, starting in 1999.

ETA: By 1998, I believe the turnlock of 5180 should be the new square style, not what this bag has. Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-5180...722574?hash=item1f08913e4e:g:1-sAAOSwrTFd9bui
So I think it is fake.

 

[BeenBurned]

I have this picture of the same style saved in my files as possibly okay. Then I have this Willis creed saved as probably fake because the frame of the creed is too square, although the bag didn't have any mistakes. I don't have any labeled as positively authentic except for Thailand creeds, starting in 1999.

ETA: By 1998, I believe the turnlock of 5180 should be the new square style, not what this bag has. Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-5180...722574?hash=item1f08913e4e:g:1-sAAOSwrTFd9bui
So I think it is fake.

Thank you for your thoughts!

 

[Hyacinth]

I have this picture of the same style saved in my files as possibly okay. Then I have this Willis creed saved as probably fake because the frame of the creed is too square, although the bag didn't have any mistakes. I don't have any labeled as positively authentic except for Thailand creeds, starting in 1999.

ETA: By 1998, I believe the turnlock of 5180 should be the new square style, not what this bag has. Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-5180...722574?hash=item1f08913e4e:g:1-sAAOSwrTFd9bui
So I think it is fake.

I agree that it's fake, the turnlock shape is wrong for any 1998 briefcase.

There are no solidly authentic photos of any *8R- serials in my files. Some *7R- with US creeds may be ok, but there have been quite a few J7R- fakes. There's only one *8R- bag in my files, a C8R-9087 Metropolis Zip, and I only have the creed photo so it's not much help.
ETA - However, the serial in the fake briefcase we're talking about and the "possibly fake" 9087 Metropolis Zip I mentioned above seem to have the same exact serial prefix stamping, especially the "No", and the rest of the serial font also looks similar:



!999, 2000, and 2001 "R" bags, almost all business or travel style, from Thailand seem to be ok except for one possible and obvious fake.

Except for the Thailand items with R serials, the R plant code bags probably need to be authenticated using something besides the serial number.

 

[Hyacinth]

I have this picture of the same style saved in my files as possibly okay. Then I have this Willis creed saved as probably fake because the frame of the creed is too square, although the bag didn't have any mistakes. I don't have any labeled as positively authentic except for Thailand creeds, starting in 1999.

ETA: By 1998, I believe the turnlock of 5180 should be the new square style, not what this bag has. Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-5180...722574?hash=item1f08913e4e:g:1-sAAOSwrTFd9bui
So I think it is fake.

The Coach logo above the creed in the Willis seems like the letters should be flatter. The right side of the A should be thicker, and the first C looks like the serif is missing.

 

[Ebkbay]

Authentic

Thank you, BeenBurned.
And Happy New Year to you.

Authentic

 

[BeenBurned]

There are no solidly authentic photos of any *8R- serials in my files. Some *7R- with US creeds may be ok, but there have been quite a few J7R- fakes. There's only one *8R- bag in my files, a C8R-9087 Metropolis Zip, and I only have the creed photo so it's not much help.

If you'd like more *8R for your files, I'll share mine, some of which I'm sure came from you.

ETA: Although named as 1998, I believe the brown one is 1996.

 

[Kitana0808]

Hello good morning and happy new year to all! Can i please have these 2 vintage coach authenticated. Found at a thrift. The willis is smaller than the regular sized willis...is this a mini? #C7L-5130. The flap bag is #D9C-9170

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello good morning and happy new year to all! Can i please have these 2 vintage coach authenticated. Found at a thrift. The willis is smaller than the regular sized willis...is this a mini? #C7L-5130. The flap bag is #D9C-9170

Both are authentic.

The first isn't a Willis. It's a station bag.

Second is a classic pouch.

 

[Kitana0808]

Both are authentic.

The first isn't a Willis. It's a station bag.

Second is a classic pouch.

Thank you!

 

[Aperture101013]

Good morning! I am not having much luck finding any matching creed detail on this Coach Leather Garment Bag. Can you please assist? Thank you!