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That style 9063 has been faked a lot, and I believe this is one of the fakes.

My biggest concerns are the serial number and creed stamp. The fonts used in the serial don't match any of the genuine bags made in that same plant and year within a few months of the month shown in the serial number codes. But the biggest problem is the creed stamp. The quality of the lettering, especially the Coach name at the top of the creed, is REALLY bad. Coach would never allow a stamp with those problems to be used in their plants. Some of the letters aren't even close in shape and detail to Coach's trademarked logo, the 2 Cs don't even look like each other and the serifs at the ends of the tops of the Cs are badly shaped or completely missing and it's not just from wear and tear. Some of the creed words use very wide rounded letters and then in other words like "states" they look like they've been squeezed in a vise. Several of the numbers in the serial number actually have breaks or gaps in them, and the quality of the lettering in general is so bad that it looks like someone made the stamp in their garage. The creed stamping is almost unreadable.

I don't know if the photo will enlarge properly but I'll try. If not I'll post an enlarged photo in a little while:
https://forum.purseblog.com/attachments/3fcbc44c-c630-49b8-a049-1d078d8f07a2-jpeg.4626934/
Click on the plus sign in the circle to enlarge.

There are probably other production details that would also raise red flags, but Coach is usually fanatical about their creeds and stampings and this one just doesn't meet their standards.

ETA - Here's a stamping in a genuine bag made almost exactly a year before the date code in the presumed fake bag and made in the same plant for comparison:
1998_B-plant-outlet-J8B-9053-a.jpg


MORE OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
 
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im wondering if i just posted wrong... I noticed many people asked about their bag after i asked about mine... Do i need to ask a certakn way? Please can someone tell me if the bag i got for christmas is authentic.. it was bought on amazon no. J1947-F27583
 

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It looks good. I don't know the style number.
I'm not sure whether the embossed version has the same or different style number than the smooth leather apple.

The smooth one is 7369:
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That style 9063 has been faked a lot, and I believe this is one of the fakes.

My biggest concerns are the serial number and creed stamp. The fonts used in the serial don't match any of the genuine bags made in that same plant and year within a few months of the month shown in the serial number codes. But the biggest problem is the creed stamp. The quality of the lettering, especially the Coach name at the top of the creed, is REALLY bad. Coach would never allow a stamp with those problems to be used in their plants. Some of the letters aren't even close in shape and detail to Coach's trademarked logo, the 2 Cs don't even look like each other and the serifs at the ends of the tops of the Cs are badly shaped or completely missing and it's not just from wear and tear. Some of the creed words use very wide rounded letters and then in other words like "states" they look like they've been squeezed in a vise. Several of the numbers in the serial number actually have breaks or gaps in them, and the quality of the lettering in general is so bad that it looks like someone made the stamp in their garage. The creed stamping is almost unreadable.

I don't know if the photo will enlarge properly but I'll try. If not I'll post an enlarged photo in a little while:
https://forum.purseblog.com/attachments/3fcbc44c-c630-49b8-a049-1d078d8f07a2-jpeg.4626934/
Click on the plus sign in the circle to enlarge.

There are probably other production details that would also raise red flags, but Coach is usually fanatical about their creeds and stampings and this one just doesn't meet their standards.

ETA - Here's a stamping in a genuine bag made almost exactly a year before the date code in the presumed fake bag and made in the same plant for comparison:
View attachment 4626953


MORE OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
From what I'm finding, it's looking like *9B (various months) is a favorite among the counterfeiters and those that I've found all have the same weird font.

There are no pictures but here's a March, 2018 post that questioned an H9B bag that was deemed fake in the next post after it:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1885#post-32165420

And just a month ago, I posted another H9B-9992:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-2876#post-33446740
At the time, it looks like the seller ended her listing but has since relisted:
https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m71474195762/
little treasures Mercari H9B-9992.jpg

And here are a few others I've found that I don't believe are authentic either.
J9B-9165: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...839831?hash=item23ccccf657:g:PfwAAOSwEy1d8q4Y
Coach fake? J9B-9165 creed.jpg

L9B-9817: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-L9B-9817-Leather-crossbody-handbag-VGC/324004384818?
hash=item4b702a9032:g:nfIAAOSwjzld6neb

Coach fake? L9B-9817 creed.jpg


And one more. In this post, one of the fakes listed had a D9B prefix.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...oach-fakes-here.824098/page-381#post-32787954

For good measure, here are a couple more I found in my library.
fake L9B-5180.png fake L9B-9819.png
 
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