Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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Lake Effect said:
The general awfulness of that bag lingers, almost as much as the wanna be red Weston with missing dowels he had up a few years ago . . .
It’s like he finds the worst fakes to round out the authentic. If you have to proceed, do so with extreme caution . . .
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As I said in the past, it's too bad ProVintageGear doesn't verify his items because he does get some nice authentic inventory.

But IMO, a seller who mixes, a seller who thinks he/she is expert enough to "know" authenticity, a seller who doesn't learn from his/her mistakes is MORE dangerous than a seller who has never listed the real deal. (At least you know that that seller who never sells authentic pushes carp. But a seller like the Etsy seller builds a strong sense of security among customers and it makes me wonder how many buyers have been ripped off.)
 
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BeenBurned said:
Not the first and not the last. There are so many sites and sellers to avoid.

And so many who are just too proud (or cocky) to ask for help.

ETA: it’s not the first time EBTH aka everything but the house has been notified that they have fakes.
https://forum.purseblog.com/search/8968355/?q=Ebth&o=date
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My next door neighbor works for EBTH. I have told her before and it goes no where even if she tells them. EBTH doesn't care.
 
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Bearcd said:
View attachment 4514967 View attachment 4514968 View attachment 4514969 View attachment 4514970 View attachment 4514971 View attachment 4514972 View attachment 4514967 View attachment 4514970 Please take a look at this one. Seller: Local consignment shop. Thanks!
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This one is fake. The style is from about 2004 and wouldn't have been made in 1996 (the year indicated on the creed). And did you notice that the creed describes a leather bag for this not leather item? Additionally, the "J" plant code is for a Chinese factory but the creed states that the bag was US-made.
 
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BeenBurned said:
Add EBTH to the list of sites that ignore reports of fakes:
Etsy
Poshmark
Mercari
Shopgoodwill
iOffer (though they don’t claim honesty or integrity)
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Also TheRealReal although I don't know if anyone has ever tried to report fakes to them.

And how long has it been since we've even heard the name "iOffer"? They seem to have dropped off everyone's radar. Do they still even sell designer brands? Or does everyone who buys from them know they're probably buying fakes and just don't care? From just a quick look and the abundance of handbag listing titles like "hot handbag women bag" it looks like the Chinese El Cheapo Bags sellers have made it their home away from home. There's a grand total of THREE bags listed under "coach bag" and they're all genuine.

How the mighty have fallen!
 
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BeenBurned said:
This one is fake. The style is from about 2004 and wouldn't have been made in 1996 (the year indicated on the creed). And did you notice that the creed describes a leather bag for this not leather item? Additionally, the "J" plant code is for a Chinese factory but the creed states that the bag was US-made.
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Thanks very much. I thought something seemed off but I’m new at this. I appreciate it.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Also TheRealReal although I don't know if anyone has ever tried to report fakes to them.
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So all these sites do not care about selling counterfeit items, they must know is against the law. How they get away with it? Only if the "brand" report them?

Etsy removed one of my listings once, because I mentioned a name brand on the title, (not that it was, but that it could work with XX). They sent me a message from their legal department, saying that they had received notice of the Company XX, to the effect that I broke copyright laws, etc... I had seen other people doing the same thing yet their listings remain, when I wrote back to Etsy just to ask why mine and not the rest, they totally ignored me.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Also TheRealReal although I don't know if anyone has ever tried to report fakes to them.

And how long has it been since we've even heard the name "iOffer"? They seem to have dropped off everyone's radar. Do they still even sell designer brands? Or does everyone who buys from them know they're probably buying fakes and just don't care? From just a quick look and the abundance of handbag listing titles like "hot handbag women bag" it looks like the Chinese El Cheapo Bags sellers have made it their home away from home. There's a grand total of THREE bags listed under "coach bag" and they're all genuine.

How the mighty have fallen!
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I don't know much about TRR but another that I thought of was Vestiaire Collective. When notified that an item is fake, they remove the post and (usually) block you.

I included iOffer because it's had such a long history but a recent check either implies a lawsuit (or 2 or 3 or more) or searching has become more difficult. Maybe there are secret ways to search for fakes!
 
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WishingonaCoach said:
So all these sites do not care about selling counterfeit items, they must know is against the law. How they get away with it? Only if the "brand" report them?

Etsy removed one of my listings once, because I mentioned a name brand on the title, (not that it was, but that it could work with XX). They sent me a message from their legal department, saying that they had received notice of the Company XX, to the effect that I broke copyright laws, etc... I had seen other people doing the same thing yet their listings remain, when I wrote back to Etsy just to ask why mine and not the rest, they totally ignored me.
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I've never seen a fake that I reported on Etsy removed unless the seller was honest enough to remove her own listing when personally notified.

But I have successfully gotten listings (of authentic items) removed when the sellers stole my pictures and I reported through when I reported via a DMCA takedown request. (I've done it on Poshmark, Tradesy, Etsy, Ioffer and Ebay.)

In my experience, that's the only way to get some of these sites to act on reports but it's the rights owners who have to report the infringement when it comes to intellectual property, i.e., images and text.
 
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