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Could you kindly authenticate this bag in my possession?
 

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Good Afternoon Authenticators,

Item: Coach Keychain Key Fob Flower Butterfly Dragonfly gently used
Listing number: 401682697559
Seller: squirm011303
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Keychain-Key-Fob-Flower-Butterfly-Dragonfly-gently-used/401682697559?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=36be5d1ad9294375bbe41f26ad951978&pid=100675&rk=3&rkt=15&sd=163479295590&itm=401682697559&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:def9b295-1c23-11e9-876c-74dbd1804131|parentrq:67acbbed1680a9c56cd88e1affecd9bd|iid:1

Item: Coach Beach Fish Sand Bucket shovel Starfish Multi Charm Keychain
Listing number: 163492772956
Seller: magicaldeals1998_0
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Beac...h=item2610edbc5c:g:PRYAAOSw5lJaxXil:rk:8:Pf:0

Item: COACH BUTTERFLY HEART STAR KEYCHAIN CHARM 92721 PINK
Listing number: 292925994112
Seller: chrissycew
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-BUTT...h=item4433bff480:g:uakAAOSwkv5cQ23B:rk:3:pf:0

Comments: Please authenticate these keychains. I have not seen one like the first one and it does not have Coach identification. TIA.

All are authentic.

#2 is 92097. (Note that this one has been closely faked so ask first.)

I can't located a style number for #1.
#1 is 92439.
 
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I'm definitely reading the prefix as A7D and noticed that the "No." and the underscore were different from MOST of the *7D creeds but I did find this one.

First is the creed from the bag in question. Second is from this listing. I think the seller copied the style number incorrectly.
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Sorry I'm late to the party.

Not sure if this photo was already posted but I don't think the second one is genuine either. Below is an A7D- from my files which IS genuine. The large gaps in the fake tan Equestrian are wrong, it's trying to be an Equestrian Zip # 9802.
1997_D-plant_A7D-9018-a.jpg

If those parallel scars on the outside are natural as the listing claims, I don't think a genuine Coach would have been let out of the plant like that, much less sold at retail, and there are no outlet stamps or any other indications of a bag that should have been discounted. (The hangtag stamping is bad too especially the "A") I wouldn't buy a Coach with that kind of damage, natural or otherwise. The listing says "PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE PHOTO. THERE IS A SCRAPPING AT THE FRONT OF THE BAG.AFTER SEVERAL EXAMINATIONS WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT IS IN THE LEATHER. LEATHER IS FROM ANIMAL SKIN AND NO SKIN IS PERFECT AS WE KNOW”



And once again we have a problem with the date. The Equestrian styles weren't even introduced until the Holiday 1997 catalog, at least 8 months after the date in the fake.

These seem like red flags:
9802_FAKE Equestrian-serial and claimed natural scratches-c.jpg 9802_FAKE Equestrian-serial and claimed natural scratches-e.jpg
 
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Re @Catbird9's observation, I'm not sure either bag is authentic; I was pointing out the similar fonts.

Actually, I had misread (or mistyped) the style number as 9173 since the seller described 4173 and her bag does seem to match the style.

However with that said, I found another anomyly (sp?) that might help with the authentication or un-authentication of homeandmore2013's bag.

homeandmore2013's bag has sonoma-type striped lining, whereas this listing has solid lining.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-CO...h=item3fac780e40:g:owQAAOSw9GhYfV2Y:rk:3:pf:0

ETA: Every other flatiron bag image I found came from the B plant.

I haven't really dug into the details of the Flatiron bags but my very limited notes from a few years ago on that line say "most have Sonoma stripe lining" so I must have seen some that didn't. It doesn't mean much but I just wanted to throw that in. Maybe some day I'll dig into it a bit more.

ETA - Guess "some day" is today. It's hard to see but that doesn't look like striped fabric. (I also found a fake Lexington 4183 with Sonoma lining. Guess the counterfeiters were easily confused.) So far I've seen Flatirons with plain, stripe AND what could be Logo linings. :biggrin:
1997_B-plant-J7B-4173-a.jpg
 
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