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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
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    Listing number:
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    Link:
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
I purchased a few Coach purses in the glass case at Goodwill. All have the stamped creed but this one. And it has a tag still on it as well as the fob and care instructions. I need help with authenticating. Can anyone help?

Please post a photo of the creed patch, the 2 small fabric tags inside the bag showing the country of manufacture and the one probably buried all the way in the bottom of the inside zipper pocket showing the production codes. And please include a photo of the INSIDE of the paper price tag with the codes and style number. Post number One in this thread lists most of the details that we need.
Although Hyacinth requested additional pictures necessary to authenticate the crossgrain bag, I recommend getting the other bags authenticated too.

Just because a bag has a creed and serial number doesn't mean that it's authentic.
 
Hi! I'm wanting to buy this coach but was hoping you could authenticate. I have a couple more bags I own but for some reason it has never crossed my mind to do this! It is being sold on Depop and seller says the body of the bag is 10" tall. Serial M6H-4156. I really appreciate any input. Thank you!Capture+_2018-01-23-14-28-38-1.png Capture+_2018-01-23-14-28-42-1.png Capture+_2018-01-23-14-28-51-1.pngCapture+_2018-01-23-14-28-47-1.png
 
Item: RARE Coach Bleeker Whiskey Vachetta Leather & Leather Applique Tote #11786
Listing number: 162859067695
Seller: finery_merchant
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach...067695?hash=item25eb28292f:g:Mo8AAOSwu6taYRMo

Comments: I posted a red one like this quite a while ago that turned out to be fake and always wondered if it came in just vachetta - it looks nice, but is it legit? :) Also there was a bag sold recently with the same #11786 but in a bucket style (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-1178...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) . So I am a little confused if one is or isn't legit
 
Hi everyone! Is it possible for one factory to have 2 different label, whether in font or spacing within a year? Like this one, I think it is made from factory 80 in april 2015. And the other one is also made in the same factory in september 2015? Thanks for your help!FB_IMG_1514274200380.jpgtapatalk_1516767827577.jpeg
 
Item: RARE Coach Bleeker Whiskey Vachetta Leather & Leather Applique Tote #11786
Listing number: 162859067695
Seller: finery_merchant
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach...067695?hash=item25eb28292f:g:Mo8AAOSwu6taYRMo

Comments: I posted a red one like this quite a while ago that turned out to be fake and always wondered if it came in just vachetta - it looks nice, but is it legit? :smile: Also there was a bag sold recently with the same #11786 but in a bucket style (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-11786-Rare-Vleecker-Floral-Vachetta-Hobo-Duffel-/162832979581?hash=item25e99a167d:g:lO4AAOSwevlaQxY9&nma=true&si=h0ZWq6kvs8O60zIgq%2BLZwagKsvk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) . So I am a little confused if one is or isn't legit

Did you look carefully at the details of the "paperwork" in the second listing?Seller " kevikrus_2 " is VERY careful to cover up the style number on every sticker and tag in that listing, either with a carefully-placed leather hangtag or by curling over the corner of the pagkage label. BUT THE UPC CODES ON THE PRICE TAG AND ON THE STICK-ON PACKAGE LABEL ARE DIFFERENT, LOOK AT THE SECOND SET OF NUMBERS. THE PACKAGE LABEL IS FOR A DENIM FABRIC BAG, NOT A LEATHER BAG, PROBABLY FOR STYLE NUMBER 11783_BLEECKER DENIM CANVAS FLORAL LARGE TOTE. That means the kevikrus_2 listing for Coach 11786 Rare Vleecker Floral Vachetta Hobo Duffel is apparently showing a stick-on label from a different bag.

Here are thumbnails of the Denim Floral Large Tote 11783 and the 11786 Bleecker Floral Tooled Vachetta Duffle. There is NO 11786 genuine Bleecker Floral Tooled TOTE. The first listing by " FINERY_MERCHANT " is fake, and the second seller is (possibly deliberately) using a package label from a different bag in their photos. At this point I probably wouldn't trust either of them. The last 3 pics are of 2 other fakes using the same 11786 style number. Similar fake "11786 Tote" styles have been found in different colors like the Red and Orange below but with the same style of fake creed patch. The fakes are VERY close but they have certain details that aren't right, like incomplete stitching around the leather pull tabs on the inside pockets and a type of extended top zipper hardly ever used by Coach.

Here's a partial catalog photo of the genuine Bleecker Tooled Floral Duffle in a post from 2008:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/new-catalogue.246322/page-3#post-5230670

And here are the other fakes that we all talked about back in 2016 that you mentioned earlier including more photos, there seem to be a LOT of these fakes around considering the work involved in making them and in a style not even made by Coach.:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.889527/page-1007#post-30259160

A search for "11786" in all the Coach forums here will bring up more posts on those fakes.

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Item: RARE Coach Bleeker Whiskey Vachetta Leather & Leather Applique Tote #11786
Listing number: 162859067695
Seller: finery_merchant
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach...067695?hash=item25eb28292f:g:Mo8AAOSwu6taYRMo

Comments: I posted a red one like this quite a while ago that turned out to be fake and always wondered if it came in just vachetta - it looks nice, but is it legit? :smile: Also there was a bag sold recently with the same #11786 but in a bucket style (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-11786-Rare-Vleecker-Floral-Vachetta-Hobo-Duffel-/162832979581?hash=item25e99a167d:g:lO4AAOSwevlaQxY9&nma=true&si=h0ZWq6kvs8O60zIgq%2BLZwagKsvk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557) . So I am a little confused if one is or isn't legit

Did you look carefully at the details of the "paperwork" in the second listing?Seller " kevikrus_2 " is VERY careful to cover up the style number on every sticker and tag in that listing, either with a carefully-placed leather hangtag or by curling over the corner of the pagkage label. BUT THE UPC CODES ON THE PRICE TAG AND ON THE STICK-ON PACKAGE LABEL ARE DIFFERENT, LOOK AT THE SECOND SET OF NUMBERS. THE PACKAGE LABEL IS FOR A DENIM FABRIC BAG, NOT A LEATHER BAG, PROBABLY FOR STYLE NUMBER 11783_BLEECKER DENIM CANVAS FLORAL LARGE TOTE. That means the kevikrus_2 listing for Coach 11786 Rare Vleecker Floral Vachetta Hobo Duffel is apparently showing a stick-on label from a different bag.

Here are thumbnails of the Denim Floral Large Tote 11783 and the 11786 Bleecker Floral Tooled Vachetta Duffle. There is NO 11786 genuine Bleecker Floral Tooled TOTE. The first listing by " FINERY_MERCHANT " is fake, and the second seller is (possibly deliberately) using a package label from a different bag in their photos. At this point I probably wouldn't trust either of them. The last 3 pics are of 2 other fakes using the same 11786 style number. Similar fake "11786 Tote" styles have been found in different colors like the Red and Orange below but with the same style of fake creed patch. The fakes are VERY close but they have certain details that aren't right, like incomplete stitching around the leather pull tabs on the inside pockets and a type of extended top zipper hardly ever used by Coach.

Here's a partial catalog photo of the genuine Bleecker Tooled Floral Duffle in a post from 2008:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/new-catalogue.246322/page-3#post-5230670

And here are the other fakes that we all talked about back in 2016 that you mentioned earlier including more photos, there seem to be a LOT of these fakes around considering the work involved in making them and in a style not even made by Coach.:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.889527/page-1007#post-30259160

A search for "11786" in all the Coach forums here will bring up more posts on those fakes.

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I agree with Hyacinth regarding whether either seller would be recommended. (My opinion is NO on both! And it's not finery_merchant 's first fake!)

But in kevikrus_2 's defense, the seller may have mixed up the sticker with another bag that was sold. Why he seems to purposely hide style numbers comes of as sneaky at best.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/coach-larg...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
Oops, sorry!

Could you please authenticate coach small kelsey I saw on fb?

I wonder because the serial number is in different font and spacing than the other bag made in the same factory, which is plant 80FB_IMG_1514274189928.jpgFB_IMG_1514274192935.jpgFB_IMG_1514274198244.jpgFB_IMG_1514274200380.jpgFB_IMG_1514274216097.jpgFB_IMG_1516761931557.jpg

This is also small kelsey, the other serial number is stanton. I included it because it is produced on the nearer date with the black kelsey. Also, it seems the kelsey's lining is in plain fabric, but the black one has coach coach all over it like swagger lining. The leather on black kelsey creed and blue kelsey also seems different, or is it just me?

Thank you!
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