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Please authenticate. Thank you in advance. I found this one in a thrift shop. Crescent? (It's like a charm -- if I buy a bag on ebay, I immediately find it at a thrift store for cheaper.+

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Please authenticate. Thank you in advance. I found this one in a thrift shop. Crescent? (It's like a charm -- if I buy a bag on ebay, I immediately find it at a thrift store for cheaper.+

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It looks good.

Maybe I should buy that - buy what I want on ebay so I'll find them at thrift stores! At least this is a different color, right?
 
Item: RARE Coach 11786 Red Bleeker Signature Denim Leather Floral Large Tote Bag

Listing number: 231930246237 (ended & not relisted)

Seller: amanda051987

Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach-11786-Red-Bleeker-Signature-Denim-Leather-
Floral-Large-Tote-Bag-/231930246237?hash=item36001eb45d%3Ag%3AdoEAAOSwFNZW1apP&nma=true&si=GVb1XGlcqONT%252FMphWrDDnPhOVj0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Comments: Messaged seller to request a copy of creed as listing states style no is 11786. However 11786 is the Bleecker Bucket Floral. She is not at home, but stated the bag number was 11786 (she also bought it on ebay). I asked if she could send pics and her sister did, but still hard to tell. The creed is printed crooked in the pics, but other than that, I really cannot read anything. I told her that maybe the "6" was an "8" and maybe didn't print well. So I decided to post here to you all and see what you know about this bag and if it is authentic. I am trying to attach pic of creed sent to me. Thank you!
 

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Item: RARE Coach 11786 Red Bleeker Signature Denim Leather Floral Large Tote Bag

Listing number: 231930246237 (ended & not relisted)

Seller: amanda051987

Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach-11786-Red-Bleeker-Signature-Denim-Leather-
Floral-Large-Tote-Bag-/231930246237?hash=item36001eb45d%3Ag%3AdoEAAOSwFNZW1apP&nma=true&si=GVb1XGlcqONT%252FMphWrDDnPhOVj0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Comments: Messaged seller to request a copy of creed as listing states style no is 11786. However 11786 is the Bleecker Bucket Floral. She is not at home, but stated the bag number was 11786 (she also bought it on ebay). I asked if she could send pics and her sister did, but still hard to tell. The creed is printed crooked in the pics, but other than that, I really cannot read anything. I told her that maybe the "6" was an "8" and maybe didn't print well. So I decided to post here to you all and see what you know about this bag and if it is authentic. I am trying to attach pic of creed sent to me. Thank you!

There's nothing I can find from style numbers 11766 to 11788 that would fit the description she used in her listing. Also "Signature ... Denim Leather" doesn't sound like a description Coach would use. Which is it, Leather or Signature?

She wasn't home, but her sister was? How convenient.

A slightly crooked creed stamp isn't a problem, but this one is excessive. There are other red flags in that photo too. The listing was removed by Ebay, not the seller, so someone apparently reported it as fake. Even if it's re-listed I would STRONGLY caution you against buying it.

EDITED TO ADD - Ah, BINGO !!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

We've seen that bag before, discussed it thoroughly, and concluded it was fake.

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-91.html#post29046472
and the next 2 or 3 posts.

The one in the listing you luckily DIDN'T buy is the same fake style but a different bag, the creed stamp and stitching are much sloppier than the one we discussed at the Authenticity Questions thread last year. The difference just in the creed details make it even more likely that they're both fake.

Another red flag is your seller's description - "It looks like black dye got on the handles and other places on this bag because its a faint black color. Has some fading on exterior leather. Broken zipper inside bag which coach will fix for free and not noticeable." Edgepaint all over handles? And a broken zipper?
 
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Item: COACH Legacy Garcia Limited Edition
Listing #: 301965543195
Seller: kirstenlj
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Suede...543195?hash=item464e8c871b:g:U78AAOSwNsdXRRx8

What do you all think about this bag? I am not really sure why the E changed to an F in the serial number... :confused1:
Two different bags or am I looking at this incorrectly?

Thank you in advance!
Interesting re the creed.

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with kirstenlj as a seller because at least one of her pictures isn't her own.

The first picture of the creed (with the "E" month code) from kirstenlj's listing was stolen from this seller's listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ltd-Ed-COAC...306538?hash=item25bb02b42a:g:~hcAAOSwu4BVzSoI

I'm not sure why she'd do that since she seems to use her own images for the other pictures.

In this case, I'd contact the seller and ask why she'd show another creed picture that isn't her own. And perhaps ask for her to take another picture of her own creed with a card or paper with her ebay user ID on it as proof that she actually has the bag in her possession. (In fact, her other listings show her business card. Why not do it with this one too?)
 
Item: RARE Coach 11786 Red Bleeker Signature Denim Leather Floral Large Tote Bag

Listing number: 231930246237 (ended & not relisted)

Seller: amanda051987

Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach-11786-Red-Bleeker-Signature-Denim-Leather-
Floral-Large-Tote-Bag-/231930246237?hash=item36001eb45d%3Ag%3AdoEAAOSwFNZW1apP&nma=true&si=GVb1XGlcqONT%252FMphWrDDnPhOVj0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Comments: Messaged seller to request a copy of creed as listing states style no is 11786. However 11786 is the Bleecker Bucket Floral. She is not at home, but stated the bag number was 11786 (she also bought it on ebay). I asked if she could send pics and her sister did, but still hard to tell. The creed is printed crooked in the pics, but other than that, I really cannot read anything. I told her that maybe the "6" was an "8" and maybe didn't print well. So I decided to post here to you all and see what you know about this bag and if it is authentic. I am trying to attach pic of creed sent to me. Thank you!

There's nothing I can find from style numbers 11766 to 11788 that would fit the description she used in her listing. Also "Signature ... Denim Leather" doesn't sound like a description Coach would use. Which is it, Leather or Signature?

She wasn't home, but her sister was? How convenient.

A slightly crooked creed stamp isn't a problem, but this one is excessive. There are other red flags in that photo too. The listing was removed by Ebay, not the seller, so someone apparently reported it as fake. Even if it's re-listed I would STRONGLY caution you against buying it.

EDITED TO ADD - Ah, BINGO !!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

We've seen that bag before, discussed it thoroughly, and concluded it was fake.

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-91.html#post29046472
and the next 2 or 3 posts.

The one in the listing you luckily DIDN'T buy is the same fake style but a different bag, the creed stamp and stitching are much sloppier than the one we discussed at the Authenticity Questions thread last year. The difference just in the creed details make it even more likely that they're both fake.

Another red flag is your seller's description - "It looks like black dye got on the handles and other places on this bag because its a faint black color. Has some fading on exterior leather. Broken zipper inside bag which coach will fix for free and not noticeable." Edgepaint all over handles? And a broken zipper?

Ditto what Hyacinth said. The bag is fake. Report away! (In fact, I also reported multiple completed/unsold listings for the same bag going back to March.)
 
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Interesting re the creed.

I'm not sure I'm comfortable with kirstenlj as a seller because at least one of her pictures isn't her own.

The first picture of the creed (with the "E" month code) from kirstenlj's listing was stolen from this seller's listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ltd-Ed-COAC...306538?hash=item25bb02b42a:g:~hcAAOSwu4BVzSoI

I'm not sure why she'd do that since she seems to use her own images for the other pictures.

In this case, I'd contact the seller and ask why she'd show another creed picture that isn't her own. And perhaps ask for her to take another picture of her own creed with a card or paper with her ebay user ID on it as proof that she actually has the bag in her possession. (In fact, her other listings show her business card. Why not do it with this one too?)
Thank you for taking the time to look at this listing. I appreciate your time.

At first, I didn't realize there were two different letters. The second time I looked at the pics, the side angled pic and the seller's fingers under the creed patch caught my attention.

I will take your advice. Thank you again.
 
Thank you Hyacinth! I do appreciate you being thorough! How do you tell if it was removed by Ebay? Sorry, I didn't look at anything else when I copied all the info over.

There's nothing I can find from style numbers 11766 to 11788 that would fit the description she used in her listing. Also "Signature ... Denim Leather" doesn't sound like a description Coach would use. Which is it, Leather or Signature?

She wasn't home, but her sister was? How convenient.

A slightly crooked creed stamp isn't a problem, but this one is excessive. There are other red flags in that photo too. The listing was removed by Ebay, not the seller, so someone apparently reported it as fake. Even if it's re-listed I would STRONGLY caution you against buying it.

EDITED TO ADD - Ah, BINGO !!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Coach-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

We've seen that bag before, discussed it thoroughly, and concluded it was fake.

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-91.html#post29046472
and the next 2 or 3 posts.

The one in the listing you luckily DIDN'T buy is the same fake style but a different bag, the creed stamp and stitching are much sloppier than the one we discussed at the Authenticity Questions thread last year. The difference just in the creed details make it even more likely that they're both fake.

Another red flag is your seller's description - "It looks like black dye got on the handles and other places on this bag because its a faint black color. Has some fading on exterior leather. Broken zipper inside bag which coach will fix for free and not noticeable." Edgepaint all over handles? And a broken zipper?
 
Thank you Hyacinth! I do appreciate you being thorough! How do you tell if it was removed by Ebay? Sorry, I didn't look at anything else when I copied all the info over.

WHOOPS! - my mistake on that part. The seller apparently did remove the listing, sorry. I was just clicking on the part of the link that was clickable and missed the rest. But so you know, when you click a link to a listing and a page comes up showing other style but not the one you looked for and that shows the auction's listing with a second line underneath, that means Ebay removed it. Like this:

"RARE Coach 11786 Red Bleeker Signature Denim Leather
0 results. You may also like"


But while I'm at it, here are the genuine versions of 11786 which I think was called a Vachetta Bleecker Duffle - DUFFLE, not TOTE! - plus a pic of "your" creed from amanda051987, and the creed from last year's listing by azpawnbroker, along with the outside of both fakes:
 

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Thank you Hyacinth! I do appreciate you being thorough! How do you tell if it was removed by Ebay? Sorry, I didn't look at anything else when I copied all the info over.

And the two 11786 fakes don't even have the same details. Here's the orange-y one from last year, and the red one you almost bid on. The shapes are slightly different, and yours has slip pockets on the ends while the earlier fake doesn't and it has a center seam down one side too:
 

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Thank you Hyacinth! I do appreciate you being thorough! How do you tell if it was removed by Ebay? Sorry, I didn't look at anything else when I copied all the info over.

And the two 11786 fakes don't even have the same details. Here's the orange-y one from last year, and the red one you almost bid on. The shapes are slightly different, and yours has slip pockets on the ends while the earlier fake doesn't and it has a center seam down one side too:
NOW it's been removed along with 2 other previous listings for the same fake red bag from amanda051987.
 
NOW it's been removed along with 2 other previous listings for the same fake red bag from amanda051987.
I did clarify to her that the Bucket (duffle) had the 11786 and that hers being a tote should have a different number, that's when I asked for the creed to see if she was reading the number wrong. There was a similar brown one sold on Poshmark when I was trying to do some digging, but when I click on the pic that comes up in my search, the listing doesn't come up. Thank you, too, Been Burned! Thank you too, Hyacinth, for pointing out the differences in the 2 reds!

Have a great day! :cool:
 
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