Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Count me as another who has never seen that type of mistake.

I thought of the possibility that perhaps the prefix was supposed to be B6B instead of 6B6 but if that were the case, we should (probably) have been able to find other 6B6 creeds.

Instead, I found a B6B creed that also matches in font and text.
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It was probably a pretty rare mistake, especially for a US plant where they should have been able to "read the memo". Even the creed stamping details look identical.

 

[Hyacinth]

View attachment 3925900 View attachment 3925903 View attachment 3925906 View attachment 3925907 Item: coach bag, cross body, forrest green
Listing number: 192417164117
Seller: greeneliasmiles
Link: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/192417164117
Comments: Hi, thank you for looking into this, could you please authenticate, tell me type/ name of the bag and year or production please thank you

Welcome to tPF!

Please check Post number One in this thread for a list of the details that should be included with Coach authentication requests. Measurements are a big help when analyzing classic and vintage styles. If it measures roughly 9x9 inches it's a Lindsay Bag from the early 1990s, style number 9888, and it's genuine. Here's Coach's catalog listing from early 1993:

 

[JCJCJC]

Item: COACH 9927 WILLIS VINTAGE BLACK LEATHER CROSSBODY BAG PURSE
Listing number: 222782681878
Seller: motherof7-68
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-9927...681878?hash=item33dee1f316:g:TQ8AAOSwZFdaTpg8

Item: COACH 9927 WILLIS VINTAGE BLACK LEATHER CROSS BODY SHOULDER BAG
Listing number: 142641756203
Seller: vflterry
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-9927...756203?hash=item21361c782b:g:tDEAAOSwFb5aSYAe

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: COACH 9927 WILLIS VINTAGE BLACK LEATHER CROSSBODY BAG PURSE
Listing number: 222782681878
Seller: motherof7-68
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-9927...681878?hash=item33dee1f316:g:TQ8AAOSwZFdaTpg8

Item: COACH 9927 WILLIS VINTAGE BLACK LEATHER CROSS BODY SHOULDER BAG
Listing number: 142641756203
Seller: vflterry
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-9927...756203?hash=item21361c782b:g:tDEAAOSwFb5aSYAe

Welcome to tPF!
The top one is genuine but the dustbag is fake.

The second one is also genuine but the seller VFLTERRY has sold fakes before, see this discussion and the posts that follow it:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.889527/page-1487#post-31306486

and here in the Hall of Shame:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...oach-fakes-here.824098/page-154#post-28544222

 

[ithinkimacoachaddict]

Welcome to tPF!

Please check Post number One in this thread for a list of the details that should be included with Coach authentication requests. Measurements are a big help when analyzing classic and vintage styles. If it measures roughly 9x9 inches it's a Lindsay Bag from the early 1990s, style number 9888, and it's genuine. Here's Coach's catalog listing from early 1993:

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Hi! Thank you for your help.. I didn't realise the measurements on eBay weren't there. I'll pm the seller next time for details.

 

[Brandywine74]

Hello again, ladies! I would appreciate a once over from your expert eyes when you get a chance. Thank you.

Item: COACH Brown leather Slim Duffel shoulder bag purse EUC 9328

Listing number: 332504791205

Seller: lorelei6965

Link: https://www.ebay.com/usr/lorelei6965

Comments: The seller states that the shoulder strap has been "professionally shortened".

 

[Little_Kat]

Exactly. The correct format for serial numbers from 1994 to around 2005 (after 2005 things get even more complicated) should be LETTER (month code) - NUMBER (year code, 1 or 2 numbers) - LETTER or rarely a NUMBER depending on the plant (plant code). The B plant in 1996 would have a serial prefix in the format Letter-Number-Letter IF it was set correctly, but we've seen other plants made similar mistakes during that transition period, especially several non-USA plants. None of us have seen this exact kind of formatting mistake before.

Creeds and serial numbers are covered in two of the Salearea Coach Guides.
http://www.ebay.com/gsr/i.html?uid="salearea"&rmvSB=true[/QUOTE]


Exactly. The correct format for serial numbers from 1994 to around 2005 (after 2005 things get even more complicated) should be LETTER (month code) - NUMBER (year code, 1 or 2 numbers) - LETTER or rarely a NUMBER depending on the plant (plant code). The B plant in 1996 would have a serial prefix in the format Letter-Number-Letter IF it was set correctly, but we've seen other plants made similar mistakes during that transition period, especially several non-USA plants. None of us have seen this exact kind of formatting mistake before.

Creeds and serial numbers are covered in two of the Salearea Coach Guides.
http://www.ebay.com/gsr/i.html?uid="salearea"&rmvSB=true[/QUOTE]
Yes I hadn't noticed it when I got it till I read more on the guides you mentioned. The bag seemed correct and since there had been mistakes by plants before I thought that might be it. I did re-size more pics. I hope this works.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello again, ladies! I would appreciate a once over from your expert eyes when you get a chance. Thank you.

Item: COACH Brown leather Slim Duffel shoulder bag purse EUC 9328

Listing number: 332504791205

Seller: lorelei6965

Link: https://www.ebay.com/usr/lorelei6965

Comments: The seller states that the shoulder strap has been "professionally shortened".

In the future, please be sure to post the actual link or URL from the auction listing - in this case:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Brow...791205?hash=item4d6ad478a5:g:KNEAAOSwz~paSWb5

I don't understand why the owner even bothered to cut down the strap. On those Duffle styles it was a simple thing to just double up the strap and that would give approximately the same strap length as it has now. That's how the strap was designed and why those styles have those unusual buckles. The shortened strap decreases the utility and value of the bag. But if that works for the owner, that's fine.

It's genuine, made in 2005.

 

[Brandywine74]

Hi, Hyacinth! Thank you for helping me and for your patience with me.

 

[Jdubster]

Please update. I hope the buyer offers an apology.

Hi BeenBurned - I sent the buyer a link to this forum and your post, as well as posted screen captures in the eBay records, and waited for over 24 hours - no response. So I sent a follow up message asking her to please cancel the return request with instructions on how to do it. She closed the return request this morning but she never messaged me at all.

Thanks again for your help!! This forum is such an amazing resource.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi BeenBurned - I sent the buyer a link to this forum and your post, as well as posted screen captures in the eBay records, and waited for over 24 hours - no response. So I sent a follow up message asking her to please cancel the return request with instructions on how to do it. She closed the return request this morning but she never messaged me at all.

Thanks again for your help!! This forum is such an amazing resource.

You're better of just accepting the return and be done with it.

The problem you might encounter should you refuse the return is that ebay may assume you don't want the item bag and tell her to keep it but give her the refund (from your account) anyway.

 

[whateve]

Hi BeenBurned - I sent the buyer a link to this forum and your post, as well as posted screen captures in the eBay records, and waited for over 24 hours - no response. So I sent a follow up message asking her to please cancel the return request with instructions on how to do it. She closed the return request this morning but she never messaged me at all.

Thanks again for your help!! This forum is such an amazing resource.

You're better of just accepting the return and be done with it.

The problem you might encounter should you refuse the return is that ebay may assume you don't want the item bag and tell her to keep it but give her the refund (from your account) anyway.

In this case it worked out perfectly. Maybe the buyer was too embarrassed to respond, but closing the return speaks for itself.

 

[spunkn]

Item: Western Embroidery Rogue

Listing #: 362200778705

Seller: aperfectool

Link: https://m.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Coach-19...oral-Embroidery-Black-57230-995-/362200778705

I've bought a fake one from eBay before so I'm cautious but also have learned what to look for. I do question about the price tag as it doesn't look like the usual single price tag but a tag placed on an oversize tag. And the abbreviation for Western looks to be WTM...instead of WTN? It's been awhile since I've seen one in the store to remember how It should be labeled/abbreviated.

 

[BeenBurned]

In this case it worked out perfectly. Maybe the buyer was too embarrassed to respond, but closing the return speaks for itself.

DUh! I missed that part that she closed the request!

 

[Jdubster]

In this case it worked out perfectly. Maybe the buyer was too embarrassed to respond, but closing the return speaks for itself.

My sense was that the buyer had buyer's remorse. It took 10 days between her receiving the bag and requesting a return but maybe with the holidays she had other stuff going on. She closed the return on her own so I'm happy!