Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Canter]

Next I'll post the Sonoma Bucket Bag.

Item: Sonoma Bucket Bag
Location: In my possession
Dimensions: Height - 10", Length - 10.5", width - 4.5"
Strap from end to end, buckled: 48"
Comments: The creed has an invalid month code and the stamping is misaligned

 

[whateve]

Next I'll post the Sonoma Bucket Bag.

Item: Sonoma Bucket Bag
Location: In my possession
Dimensions: Height - 10", Length - 10.5", width - 4.5"
Strap from end to end, buckled: 48"
Comments: The creed has an invalid month code and the stamping is misaligned

This one is authentic. They sometimes made mistakes.

 

[Canter]

Your worries are founded. It is fake. Coach did inscribe "solid brass" on some buckles from the 70s and 80s, not in the 90s. There are issues with the creed too.

ETA: the handle looks very long!

I was hoping I was wrong - thank you so much for confirming, Whateve!!!

 

[Canter]

This one is authentic. They sometimes made mistakes.

Wow, this is great news!!! Thank you!

 

[likecoach]

Thanks Whateve
I won the auction and I RARELY win the good stuff, lots of way more savvy buyers and they know there stuff, no one interested in this but me. When I bid on it I thought that is so pretty I would use it fake or not (!?!). I like Dooneys but they usually are not the style for me. This one I liked a lot.
BUT
the rivets look different colors, leash hook and zipper pull look peeling, did not see any of that clearly. I thought Dooneys were always solid brass. Also there are tabs at top of narrow side edge seam on one side I read is a no no and can't figure out interior, lined or not? Entirely my doing but I regret it! Hopefully Been Burned will check in.
It is neat to know you have similar style though. Style is nice.

 

[whateve]

I won the auction and I RARELY win the good stuff, lots of way more savvy buyers/ When I bid on it I thought, that is so pretty I would use it fake or not. I like Dooneys but they usually are not the style for me. This one I liked a lot. BUT the rivets different colors, leash hook and zipper pull peeling, did not see any of that clearly. Also there are tabs at top of side over seam on one side I read is a no no and c an't figure out interior. lined or not? Entirely my doing and I regret it!.
It is neat to know you have similar style though. Style is nice. Hopefully Been Burned will check in.

This is the style I have: http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/SAT/1142-R21-zipshoulder-blbt.htm
I often use this site to identify styles.

 

[whateve]

Did Coach make a keychain that looks like this? Seller had another keychain that I reported and has been removed. Her others look okay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/coach-sea-key-chain-/253106219559?hash=item3aee4e6a27:g:NycAAOSwM5JZmd6O
seller: afgirl81
item: coach sea key chain
253106219559

What about this one? I don't see any problems but I don't recall the style. It looks recent. Was it an Asian exclusive?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Pink-...040491?hash=item33d520faeb:g:ogMAAOSwk9dZmZcM
seller: cutiemaya0827
item: COACH Pink Stars Keychain Charm Keyring Key Fob Rare !
222619040491

 

[Canter]

Finally, the Willis - I am 95% sure that this one is fake, unfortunately.

Item: Willis
Location: In my possession
Dimensions: Height - 10", Length - 10.5", width - 3.75"
Strap from end to end, buckled: 46"
Comments: After comparing this to an authenticated Willis, the turnlock looks all wrong - the hardware is covered in the interior and has grooves, and the placement on the front of the bag seems off. In two of the photos below I include a side by side comparison of the bag with an authenticated one - one shows the covered turnlock on the interior.

 

[whateve]

Finally, the Willis - I am 95% sure that this one is fake, unfortunately.

Item: Willis
Location: In my possession
Dimensions: Height - 10", Length - 10.5", width - 3.75"
Strap from end to end, buckled: 46"
Comments: After comparing this to an authenticated Willis, the turnlock looks all wrong - the hardware is covered in the interior and has grooves, and the placement on the front of the bag seems off. In two of the photos below I include a side by side comparison of the bag with an authenticated one - one shows the covered turnlock on the interior.

Yes, unfortunately you are right; it's fake. Side by sides always highlight the differences. You need to be very careful with J6D prefixes. That is a favorite of counterfeiters. Another thing you should always look at on a Willis or station bag is the handle. Most counterfeiters don't taper the handles enough.

 

[likecoach]

This is the style I have: http://www.horsekeeping.com/Dooney/SAT/1142-R21-zipshoulder-blbt.htm
I often use this site to identify styles.

Wow, Whateve, thank you. thank you. Looks like mine is authentic.
Not 100% sure but looks good. A couple small things not clear.
Pre tag era, huh, What age is that.

 

[Canter]

Yes, unfortunately you are right; it's fake. Side by sides always highlight the differences. You need to be very careful with J6D prefixes. That is a favorite of counterfeiters. Another thing you should always look at on a Willis or station bag is the handle. Most counterfeiters don't taper the handles enough.

It's very helpful for me to know about the J6D prefixes and the handle. Thank you SO much for all of your help with these!!!

 

[Hyacinth]

Did Coach make a keychain that looks like this? Seller had another keychain that I reported and has been removed. Her others look okay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/coach-sea-key-chain-/253106219559?hash=item3aee4e6a27:g:NycAAOSwM5JZmd6O
seller: afgirl81
item: coach sea key chain
253106219559

What about this one? I don't see any problems but I don't recall the style. It looks recent. Was it an Asian exclusive?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Pink-...040491?hash=item33d520faeb:g:ogMAAOSwk9dZmZcM
seller: cutiemaya0827
item: COACH Pink Stars Keychain Charm Keyring Key Fob Rare !
222619040491

The pink stars are a Japan style, #63615.


I have a strong feeling the Sea chain is fake, the hangtag has too thin a font and the lettering is raised too much. But give me a little while to check.

ETA - I found what looks like the genuine version of the Sea charm in a collection owned by member Suzanne B that was posted a few years back, see the top of this post. The pic of the genuine one is pretty small but notice the difference in the life preserver, the anchor and the other charms. The two larger pics are of the fake. The original pic is here, post 3169, second pic:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...-ring-clubhouse.765927/page-212#post-28468506

 

[whateve]

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The pink stars are a Japan style, #63615.
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I have a strong feeling the Sea chain is fake, the hangtag has too thin a font and the lettering is raised too much. But give me a little while to check.

ETA - I found what looks like the genuine version of the Sea charm in a collection owned by member Suzanne B that was posted a few years back, see the top of this post. The genuine one is pretty small but notice the difference in the life preserver and the other charms. The two larger pics are of the fake.

thank you. I suspected the sea charm was fake.

eta: Now that I look at it again, I can see the enameling on the large hangtag is uneven.

 

[Loungette]

Could I please get an authentication from one of the esteemed local experts?

Item: Sonoma Flap in pebbled leather
Location: in my possession
Dimensions: Height 8.25"
Length 11"
Width 6"
Longer strap (unbuckled): 38"
Shorter strap (unbuckled): 12"
Comment: the color is most like the first image of the front of the bag

This is my first authentication, although I have read much of this thread. Please let me know if more information is required.

 

[Loungette]

May I also get an authentication on this bag:

Item: Skinny Tote, possibly #9546
Black
Location: in my possession
Dimensions: height 11"
length 12"
width 2"
Strap drop: 11"
Comments: kiss lock appears to be brass plated
Strap rings are brass
Serial number appears to have been glued on; now gone




Kiss lock hinge:




I've done my best to improve the creed image. Please let me know if I need to track down my local photoshop expert to improve it further.