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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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Hello again! I have a couple of bags on ebay which I want to make sure that they are authentic before making any move. Thank you so much for your help!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-RARE-...-BROWN-9014-/332194043619?hash=item4d584ed6e3
seller: preciouscargo1
ID: 332194043619

www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintage-Red-Leather-Crescent-Hippie-Berkeley-Saddle-Crossbody-Bag-9988-/172621506065?hash=item28310b2611
seller: supervgstore
ID: 172621506065

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gorgeous-Vi...102256?hash=item2832de0270:g:3gMAAOSw42JZBRuC
seller: nalmon
ID: 172652102256

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Tan-L...785039?hash=item1c83d3e00f:g:orAAAOSww5NZBQqi
seller: nosliw0
ID: 122470785039

I did search on this forum and couldn't find any info. I hope they are not duplicate. Thank you!
 
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weiste said:
Oh it's totally all right Hyacinth, I didn't wait it to be authenticated, just want to sort of confirm that it's fake.

I can't actually believe that as a seller having 300 listings of Coach bags he doesn't *KNOW* that some of his listings are fakes and push the responsibility to his "authenticator", real or imagined. I'm a newbie with hardly five or so vintage Coaches and I can see that there is something not quite right in F62-9870 made in Turkey?? I did have once purchased a Coach bag from ProVintageGear. Although the bag in itself was authentic and was authenticated here, the shopping experience wasn't particular charming. He has the attitude of "I'm the lawer I'm always right etc" and I thought that ok, maybe I save my money for someone else next time. Well it seems the lawfullest is not always so lawful.

Sorry about my gossip. It's obviously just my side of the story so please take it with a grain of salt.
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I don't think it's a fake creed. Coach DID make bags in Turkey during the time period indicated in the serial number codes, and several other creeds from the Turkey plant with 1996 date codes that match the details of this one exactly are in my photo files and appear genuine. I'm not sure what you're seeing in the serial number that you feel isn't right.

Again, that's NOT a recommendation of that seller ProVintageGear
 
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spencercat said:
Hello again! I have a couple of bags on ebay which I want to make sure that they are authentic before making any move. Thank you so much for your help!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-RARE-...-BROWN-9014-/332194043619?hash=item4d584ed6e3
seller: preciouscargo1
ID: 332194043619

www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintage-Red-Leather-Crescent-Hippie-Berkeley-Saddle-Crossbody-Bag-9988-/172621506065?hash=item28310b2611
seller: supervgstore
ID: 172621506065

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gorgeous-Vi...102256?hash=item2832de0270:g:3gMAAOSw42JZBRuC
seller: nalmon
ID: 172652102256

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Tan-L...785039?hash=item1c83d3e00f:g:orAAAOSww5NZBQqi
seller: nosliw0
ID: 122470785039

I did search on this forum and couldn't find any info. I hope they are not duplicate. Thank you!
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The first one is genuine.

The second is a Saddle Bag, not a Berkeley.and has 5 years to go before it's considered "vintage"

THE THIRD ONE IS FAKE AND HAS AN INVALID SERIAL NUMBER AND CREED.

The fourth one is a genuine Legacy Flap but has a known problem in the serial number found on many Coaches made in Costa Rica. It was actually made in 2004, not 1994 like the serial number seems to indicate.
 
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oops, sorry for the multiple message, but i just saw that the photos didn't post --let's try again!

tokyobike said:
hello!

i wanted some help authenticating a coach borough bag.
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Item: Borough Bag (Pebbled leather Black/Gold)
Listing number: 122432837633
Seller: kato201016
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-28160...837633?hash=item1c8190d801:g:lQIAAOSw4CFYvH8J
Comments: I think it checks out, but you experts know best :smile: The seller sells/has sold a ton of Coach bags.

thank you so much for your help!!
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Hyacinth said:
The first one is genuine.

The second is a Saddle Bag, not a Berkeley.and has 5 years to go before it's considered "vintage"

THE THIRD ONE IS FAKE AND HAS AN INVALID SERIAL NUMBER AND CREED.

The fourth one is a genuine Legacy Flap but has a known problem in the serial number found on many Coaches made in Costa Rica. It was actually made in 2004, not 1994 like the serial number seems to indicate.
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Wow. Thank you so much for your help, Hyacinth!
I very much appreciate it!!
 
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Neweirs01 said:
Good afternoon experts! I'm back wit the age old question of 'real or fake'? Bag is in my possession purchased from GW. I can't find much info using the style # so any info you can give (if it's real) would be appreciated.

Approximate measurements are 9.5" H x 13" L x 4"D with a 9" strap drop.

As always, thank you ladies for you expertise!



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It's authentic.
 
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tokyobike said:
hello!

i wanted some help authenticating a coach borough bag.

Item: Borough Bag (Pebbled leather Black/Gold)
Listing number: 122432837633
Seller: kato201016
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-28160...837633?hash=item1c8190d801:g:lQIAAOSw4CFYvH8J
Comments: I think it checks out, but you experts know best :smile: The seller sells/has sold a ton of Coach bags.

thank you so much for your help!!
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It looks good.

Note that it's not necessary to post the pictures if they're in the listing. There are cases where you might have to obtain additional pictures that aren't in the listing so they'd need to be uploaded but otherwise, save yourself the extra work!
 
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weiste said:
Fake? bag from a self-claimed "knowledged" seller (invalid creed and everything comes with it)
Seller: ProVintageGear
https://www.etsy.com/listing/514037700/sale-mothers-day-coach-court-bag-in?ga_order=date_desc&ga_search_type=vintage&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=coach purse&ref=sr_gallery_29
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Hyacinth said:
Other opinions are welcome, but that seller has been discussed within the last few days because of maybe half a dozen recently-listed fake Coaches. Seller claims to have had the bags authenticated but apparently his "authenticator" is NOT qualified to tell a real Coach from a fake even when something as simple as Googling a serial number would have shown that several of his listings were fake because of known and confirmed always-fake serial numbers. There's NO excuse for any qualified authenticator to neglect such a simple and easy search. The seller has also posted information in his listings that he says was supplied by his "experts" and which has been proven incorrect.

For that reason I personally will not comment on authenticity of Coach items from ProVintageGear since doing so would feel too much like a recommendation and that's something I'm NOT prepared to give to that seller until and unless he changes whatever authentication procedures he's using and finds actual Coach experts to look over his Coach products. Just because someone claims to be an authenticator doesn't make them qualified to judge authenticity especially with brands like Coach (where very small details that can only be spotted by someone who has studied and assembled files and photos of the brand's details over many years) are just as important as recognised fake serial numbers that are easily found with a simple internet search. Even if the seller is doing his best to be honest, there seems to be a serious problem with where and from whom he's getting his information, and there is no apparent reason or justification for that lack of due diligence. Not only are some buyers spending money on counterfeits they were assured were genuine, but US Federal laws are also being broken. Selling counterfeit merchandise is a violation of federal and international trademark and copyright protection regulations.

Sorry I can't help. A quick look through this thread and the last few days' posts will help explain my concern. Again, this is my PERSONAL opinion, other authenticators can comment or not as they choose. See post number 1 in this thread for additional information.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.889527/
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weiste said:
Oh it's totally all right Hyacinth, I didn't wait it to be authenticated, just want to sort of confirm that it's fake.

I can't actually believe that as a seller having 300 listings of Coach bags he doesn't *KNOW* that some of his listings are fakes and push the responsibility to his "authenticator", real or imagined. I'm a newbie with hardly five or so vintage Coaches and I can see that there is something not quite right in F62-9870 made in Turkey?? I did have once purchased a Coach bag from ProVintageGear. Although the bag in itself was authentic and was authenticated here, the shopping experience wasn't particular charming. He has the attitude of "I'm the lawer I'm always right etc" and I thought that ok, maybe I save my money for someone else next time. Well it seems the lawfullest is not always so lawful.

Sorry about my gossip. It's obviously just my side of the story so please take it with a grain of salt.
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I feel as Hyacinth does about helping promote a seller who doesn't do his own due diligence in verifying that his items are authentic and legal to list and sell.I won't do it.

The interesting and ironic thing is that the owner of ProVintageGear opened a TPF account here and came to righteously defend himself and his reputation when he was first caught with a fake bag. (I hardly doubt it was his first fake after seeing so many more in the last few days. But it was the first to be posted here.) Then, 2 months later, he bumped the old posts and returned again to defend himself.

If ProVintageGear really wants to prove himself to be honorable, he'll end listing listings for the confirmed fakes, verify authenticity of others that he isn't 100% sure of and will make sure that any future listings are legal BEFORE he lists them!

Until such time, I won't recommend ProVintageGear at Etsy. None of his items are so hard to find that buyers can't find them from another seller.
 
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Hamhanded said:
Would like to know if this bag is genuine:

Item: Signature Ava II
Listing No. : UNK
Seller: Fashin-rules
Link: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574635916&toolid=10001&campid=5335828332&customid=&mpre=http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Coach-SIGNATURE-AVA-II-Tote-Handbag-IM-Light-khaki-chalk-F37231-325-/222397086826?hash=item33c7e63c6a:g:eZAAAOSw5HJXK2sA

Trying to replace the a bag of my wife's, and want to be sure this is genuine Coach. Thanks for the help.
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Note that the seller ID you've posted isn't the seller of the link you're asking about.
That seller is lbuddha11.
This is lbuddha11's listing you posted above: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...086826?hash=item33c7e63c6a:g:eZAAAOSw5HJXK2sA

The seller ID you posted, fashin-rules isn't valid though I did find a seller, fashion-rules.
This is fashion-rules listing for the same style:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Coach-S...168846?hash=item1a1eef9a8e:g:RK8AAOSw4GVYFsNI

Please see the first post on page 1 of this thread for the pictures needed for authentications. Neither listing has enough of the right pictures to authenticate.
 
#22,215
Hello Authenticators!

I missed out on the Mahogany Willis I had authenticated here last month, as it got waaayyyy too expensive. This bag is not cheap, but this color - if it's truly olive and not dark green - is something I haven't seen come up much on the 'Bay. Looks to be in decent shape, unless I'm missing something glaring? Is it authentic?

Item: Olive (?) Willis
Listing: 252902164100
Seller: storybookcorner
Link: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Vintage-Coac...en-/252902164100?hash=item3ae224c684#viTabs_0

Thanks so much!
 
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