Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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jillhives said:
please check this:
Item: Small hunter green "train case style" (I'm unsure of actual style)
Listing number: 262924368230
Seller: awildak
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-handbags-/262924368230?hash=item3d37837966:g:BHcAAOSwTM5Y5JoV
Comments: The pictures are a little dark but any help you can give me I'd appreciate.
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jillhives said:
Item: Vintage Coach prairie cross-body shoulder green leather handbag
Listing number: 162454116639
Seller: rainyg_2007
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-prairie-cross-body-shoulder-green-leather-handbag/162454116639
Comments: It looks really clean, I appreciate your help!
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The first one can't be authenticated without a clear readable photo of the stamped serial number. We need an actual photo. It could be a Regina Bag.

The second one is a genuine Prairie Bag from 1996.
 
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whateve said:
It's fake. The creed is wrong. There are silver grommets on the strap and the pocket is too big.
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Thank you! I knew it was not right! The fonts are bold and the mark under the o in No. didn't match from I just saw recently. Also the letter D with dash all jammed together with no sign of marks above the style numbers definitely raised red flags!
 
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houseof999 said:
Thank you! I knew it was not right! The fonts are bold and the mark under the o in No. didn't match from I just saw recently.
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Yes, one of the places they almost always mess up is the underline under the "o". It is just a dot for many plants, but not all. The font Coach used most of the time had squarish numbers. You can usually see it best on the "9". If the 9 is too curved, that is a good indication. Here is an example of an authentic creed with the same prefix.
 

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houseof999 said:
Item: XL Duffle sac 9085
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/292073681673
Seller: piotras1967
Comment: I'm not buying but still wanted to check since this is another D plant item.
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whateve said:
It's fake. The creed is wrong. There are silver grommets on the strap and the pocket is too big.
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That same bag was listed by the seller and removed in January, 2017.

This post regards a fake she had in December, 2016:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.889527/page-1281#post-30934745

And another fake from June, 2015:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.889527/page-447#post-28669116

Personally, I'd avoid piotras1967.
 
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May I request an authentication / identification on two bags? They're the same style, but different colours -- a rich brown and a kind of light brown / greige. Both are in my possession (rehab candidates). There's one zippered middle pocket, a small flap pouch on the inside, and a divided outside slip pocket. the bags measure 10.75" wide, 7.5" tall, and 3.5" deep. The shoulder strap is 36" long. The numbers appear to be pre-creed.

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Thanks very much!
 
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WileyKit said:
May I request an authentication / identification on two bags? They're the same style, but different colours -- a rich brown and a kind of light brown / greige. Both are in my possession (rehab candidates). There's one zippered middle pocket, a small flap pouch on the inside, and a divided outside slip pocket. the bags measure 10.75" wide, 7.5" tall, and 3.5" deep. The shoulder strap is 36" long. The numbers appear to be pre-creed.


Thanks very much!
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I think you misunderstood the term "pre-creed". The creed is the stamp that begins with "This is a Coach bag..." and a Coach is only considered pre-creed if it was made before Coach started stamping bags with creeds, which seems to have been some time around the mid-1970s.

So these 2 bags are not pre-creed, but are genuine Companion Bags style 9300 and probably made between 1988 and 1990. I don't know if you're getting that misinformation from the internet, or just not aware of what the word creed actually means, but I suggest you read the six Salearea Coach Guides posted at Ebay, especially the ones about creeds and serial numbers, to understand Coach details more accurately:
http://www.ebay.com/gsr/i.html?uid="salearea"&rmvSB=true
 
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You're right - I did. Sorry! I was thinking of it as pre-consistent style number, since these don't have the letters (plant stamp? now I'm second-guessing all the terms I thought I understood!) in the prefix.

And thank you so much!
 
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WileyKit said:
You're right - I did. Sorry! I was thinking of it as pre-consistent style number, since these don't have the letters (plant stamp? now I'm second-guessing all the terms I thought I understood!) in the prefix.

And thank you so much!
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Since Coach started using the combination of letters and numbers that included the plant codes in 1994, it's easier to just call bags made before then with all-number serials as "pre-1994".
 
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Hyacinth said:
Since Coach started using the combination of letters and numbers that included the plant codes in 1994, it's easier to just call bags made before then with all-number serials as "pre-1994".
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@Hyacinth I do have a question that ties in with the two bags just authenticated. Several sellers indicate when the creed stamp says made in the United States and the printing of the Coach at the top of the creed is raised as opposed to depressed, that it indicates a bag was made in the New York City plant, as opposed to other plants they used in the late 80's or early 90's. Of course, they use it as a marketing point that the bag is a New York City. Any truth?
Btw, if you haven't heard, the made in NYC bags are disappearing at an alarming rate, according to one online seller. Just wanted to keep everyone here in the loop. LOL
 
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Lake Effect said:
@HyacinthBtw, if you haven't heard, the made in NYC bags are disappearing at an alarming rate, according to one online seller. Just wanted to keep everyone here in the loop. LOL
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That's amusing. I wonder where they're all going? But candidly, given sellers' seeming predisposition to make questionable claims in that regard, if you are ever curious as to actually how rare or HTF a particular style/color/vintage is, I would suggest posting a query on the club thread Vintage Coach Photos & Chat (link = https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/vintage-coach-photos-chat.857690/ ). I'm sure that any number of the more knowledgeable collectors who contribute to that thread will be more than happy to provide you with a frank and accurate assessment.
 
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