Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[lonesomeoctober]

You're welcome! I know that when a seller lists a Coach bag, a box pops up that tells them to make sure to have a picture of the "storypatch" but most inexperienced sellers ignore that. I think that ebay also sends sellers messages telling them how to improve their listings, such as including measurements and color, but I don't think that is very successful either. Sometimes I love bad sellers, though, because that is how I may get a bargain.

Understand completely, and have been lucky that way a few times. Probably helps to stick to the older leather bags too, up to a point?

I always look at the hall of shame pics, trying to learn from those, but dang!

Just out of mad curiosity, how many years does it take to develop a level of expertise like that you, and BB, and Hyacinth have? ( there's a dumb question for you)

 

[Hyacinth]

Thanks for the pep talk, Hyacinth. I just feel bad pestering you all here constantly, but now you've asked for it! ��

Hey, if we DIDN'T want to be "pestered constantly", we wouldn't be doing this. We don't like to see people throw away their hard-earned money on fakes. And we especially want to put the scammers who are selling fakes knowingly and who just don't give a damn out of business.

 

[Hyacinth]

Understand completely, and have been lucky that way a few times. Probably helps to stick to the older leather bags too, up to a point?

I always look at the hall of shame pics, trying to learn from those, but dang!

Just out of mad curiosity, how many years does it take to develop a level of expertise like that you, and BB, and Hyacinth have? ( there's a dumb question for you)

Speaking for myself, I've probably been looking for, collecting information on, and reporting Coach fakes since around 2004-05, when I first realized the extent of the problem.

ETA - like BeenBurned, I'm a KnowKnockoffs refugee

 

[Hyacinth]

Could someone please authenticate this Coach bag?
From Salvation Army CHEAP!
Approx. 8.5"w x 7"h x 2.75"d. Strap 18" to rings.
From 2003, #6735, but does she have a name?
Any and all info much appreciated...thanks in advance!

Cute! I had one of those - Twill Field Bag

 

[BeenBurned]

Just out of mad curiosity, how many years does it take to develop a level of expertise like that you, and BB, and Hyacinth have? ( there's a dumb question for you)

Speaking for myself, I've probably been looking for, collecting information on, and reporting Coach fakes since around 2004-05, when I first realized the extent of the problem.

I don't recall exactly when I started but it was on the old knowknockoffs forum, probably around 2006. At the time, there was a wonderful ebay T&S employee who read the posts and acted on the reports of fakes.

Unfortunately, as ebay does whenever someone is good at what they do, they fired him. Evidently the removal of fakes and naru'ing of scamming sellers cost ebay too much money.

 

[Hyacinth]

I own a few coach bags I purchased at the boutique so I know they're authentic. Now I'm interested in picking up a few vintage (post 1994) court and willis bags (or anything British tan) and after reading they're commonly faked, I feel paranoid I'm going to buy a fake despite reading up on serial numbers and the like. I went back a few pages and didn't see these posted, I would appreciate your help authenticating these. Thanks

Item: coach Willis bag
Item number: 151579581836
Seller: vish79
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151579581836?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: seller says the item was bought new in 2006, but with the numbers in the creed wouldn't the bag have been manufactured in 1994?

Item: vintage coach brown leather bag purse 9870
Item number: 381147224647
seller: wp0911765
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/381147224647?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: looks too nice to be true lol


Item: COACH Vintage "Willis Murphy" British Tan Leather Crossbody Shoulder Bag #9930
Item number: 131418583532
seller: khphelps
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131418583532?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: not many photos

1- genuine, but the seller is either very confused or lying about the date, it WAS made in 1994

2- genuine but the body looks like it's been heavily conditioned or re-dyed or maybe even shoe-polished. The edges are showing much more wear than the rest of the bag - see the color difference? And the outside brass looks well-polished but unless it's a trick of the lighting that makes it look green, the inside pocket zipper might have a case of verdigris

3- Genuine, and it's just called a "Murphy Bag"

BTW, it might be better if you put the links on their own separate lines. Or are you using something other than a full-feature computer? That may be why the links in your post aren't functional.

 

[fuzzymummy]

Hi, is "V" a legit factory code for Mexico? Thanks.

 

[whateve]

What do you think of these?

Item: Tan Satchel
Seller: Atticgoods2013
Link: http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/271763948147?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: photos aren't great

Item: Bleecker bag
Seller: gracedear
Link: http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/131418982571?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Item: what is the actual name of this bag? I've seen it called several things and never know what to search for.

Item: Hippie flap bag
Seller: nevetscat
Link: http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/261757018006?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Item: Red hippie bag
Seller: bigarbor
Link: http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/321662077247?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Thanks!

They all look good. The second is called a Bleecker large flap. I have 3 of them! The red one is a Janice's Legacy made in 2002.

 

[whateve]

Hi, is "V" a legit factory code for Mexico? Thanks.

yes.

 

[fuzzymummy]

yes.

Thanks, whateve.

 

[whateve]

I own a few coach bags I purchased at the boutique so I know they're authentic. Now I'm interested in picking up a few vintage (post 1994) court and willis bags (or anything British tan) and after reading they're commonly faked, I feel paranoid I'm going to buy a fake despite reading up on serial numbers and the like. I went back a few pages and didn't see these posted, I would appreciate your help authenticating these. Thanks

Item: coach Willis bag
Item number: 151579581836
Seller: vish79
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151579581836?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Comments: seller says the item was bought new in 2006, but with the numbers in the creed wouldn't the bag have been manufactured in 1994?

Item: vintage coach brown leather bag purse 9870
Item number: 381147224647
seller: wp0911765
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/381147224647?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: looks too nice to be true lol


Item: COACH Vintage "Willis Murphy" British Tan Leather Crossbody Shoulder Bag #9930
Item number: 131418583532
seller: khphelps
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131418583532?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: not many photos

I have to disagree with Hyacinth about the condition of the court bag. I don't see any evidence of shoe polish. Bags with shoe polish usually look unnaturally shiny. Bags normally wear out on the edges first. If it was shoe polished, I think it would also be on the edges. A little conditioning would darken the color on those edges.

 

[whateve]

Understand completely, and have been lucky that way a few times. Probably helps to stick to the older leather bags too, up to a point?

I always look at the hall of shame pics, trying to learn from those, but dang!

Just out of mad curiosity, how many years does it take to develop a level of expertise like that you, and BB, and Hyacinth have? ( there's a dumb question for you)

It really didn't take me that long. I'm the baby around here! My first posts on tpf were asking for authentications, after I had bought a few fakes and realized I didn't know what I was doing!

Someone posted a thread about some vintage bags they had gotten and rehabbed. It sounded like it would be fun so I started shopping for vintage bags. I quickly realized that I had to learn how to spot a fake if I didn't want to make mistakes. When hunting for bargains, you sometimes have to make fast decisions that don't allow time to get a bag authenticated, and even with ebay's money back guarantee, it is no fun trying to get your money back. You could always end up stuck with a bag that is questionable.

I read this thread and copied choice words of wisdom into a word document. I saved pictures of styles so I'd be able to identify them if I saw them again. It was very helpful to create a file of creeds so I could compare them. I started authenticating in order to pay it forward for all the help I'd received.

 

[lonesomeoctober]

It really didn't take me that long. I'm the baby around here! My first posts on tpf were asking for authentications, after I had bought a few fakes and realized I didn't know what I was doing!

Someone posted a thread about some vintage bags they had gotten and rehabbed. It sounded like it would be fun so I started shopping for vintage bags. I quickly realized that I had to learn how to spot a fake if I didn't want to make mistakes. When hunting for bargains, you sometimes have to make fast decisions that don't allow time to get a bag authenticated, and even with ebay's money back guarantee, it is no fun trying to get your money back. You could always end up stuck with a bag that is questionable.

I read this thread and copied choice words of wisdom into a word document. I saved pictures of styles so I'd be able to identify them if I saw them again. It was very helpful to create a file of creeds so I could compare them. I started authenticating in order to pay it forward for all the help I'd received.

Thank you ladies, for responding.

*goes off to google know knock-offs*

 

[whateve]

And this Coach lipstick case?
From GW...
Approx. 3.5"w x 1.25"h x 1.5"d.
Any info like style number and age is much appreciated...thanks, again!

The Coach stamp on the front looks like it came out the same collection as the cosmetic cases 6987 -6989, which were made in 2002 and possibly some time before and after. I found a lipstick case #6910 on the wayback (I didn't save the date!) which doesn't look like it has the imprint but I can see one on the wayback with the imprint on Dec. 22, 2002. The individual link doesn't work so I can't see if it is the same style number. http://wayback.archive.org/web/2002...ail.asp?category_id=73&show_bc=1&showall=true

 

[whateve]

Thanks whateve. :urock:

Understand completely, and have been lucky that way a few times. Probably helps to stick to the older leather bags too, up to a point?

I always look at the hall of shame pics, trying to learn from those, but dang!

Just out of mad curiosity, how many years does it take to develop a level of expertise like that you, and BB, and Hyacinth have? ( there's a dumb question for you)

I don't think it helps to stick to older leather bags since those are counterfeited too.

Thanks, whateve.

Thank you ladies, for responding.

*goes off to google know knock-offs*

You're welcome!