Are There Any Handbags NOT Made In China?

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#61
Designer_Homme said:
Without denial majority of products in consumer market is Made In China or have certain parts fabricated in china, almost 70% or more. Made In Italy, Made In France, Made In Spain, also will have certain raw material that come from China. In every home, i am sure you can find alot of consumer goods that are Made In China. Sad to say, China not only have cheap labour but lots of good natural resources.

Made In China also does not necessarily means it is not of good quality. Usually as long as quality is stringent & assured during production process, it is ok. Recently, even Burberry has some of their stuffs "Made In China". Calvin Klein, Micheal Kors, Kate Spade, Marc Jacobs, Coach & many more also "Made In China". What you pay is what you get, you pay peanut, you get monkey. I rather buy "Made In China" product rather than those "Made In Indonesia", "Made In Vietnam" or "Made In India", at least quality wise it is better.

Of coz if i am paying a few grands for a bag i will still expect it to be Made In Italy, Made In France or Made In Spain...haha If it is just a few hundreds, "Made In China" or anywhere else it is still ok. If you are paying a considerable price for a bag even it is Made In China, quality is still good as the raw material (such as zippers, hardwares, leather etc.) used are the same quality as those Made In Italy, so no worries. If every fashion piece got to be Made In Italy, they will cost at least twice or more than what it is retailing for now, it will only make people who want them hard to afford to get them. Made In China assured these medium or lower range designer labels pricing can be more affordable for the masses. Luxury comes with a price, not everyone can afford it. Even for Coach products, they are quite affordable in term of price but they are also people who will not buy them or able to afford to buy them.

Luxury goods is a "WANT" not a "NEED" targeting a specific consumer market with higher spending power not mass market. People who "WANT" them will still buy & spend irregardless the price.
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I see what you're saying other than the peanut/monkey reference, but my point was Botkier is no longer made in the US. I do think it's sad when companies that once manufactured in the US send it overseas. I have no problem with paying more money for a domestically made product.
 
#63
Sad to say, China not only have cheap labour but lots of good natural resources.
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Why is this sad? Isn't cheap labor and abundant natural resources a good thing?

If it wasn't for China god knows how much we'd be paying for not just designer stuff, but for everything.

Part of me gets that we want the designers to stay authentic and true to their brand, but another part of me thinks they train the chinese the same they train the italians, and the chinese material is the same as the italian material..it's just cheaper in both cases.

The companies, hopefully, make an effort to ensure the highest quality product so....I guess I don't worry about it too much.
 
#64
mellibelly said:
I see what you're saying other than the peanut/monkey reference, but my point was Botkier is no longer made in the US. I do think it's sad when companies that once manufactured in the US send it overseas. I have no problem with paying more money for a domestically made product.
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Well my point with regards to peanut/monkey reference is Luxury & Quality comes with a price, what you pay is what you get, you can't expect a tens or hundreds bag to be "Made In Italy". As i have explained if these tens or hundreds bag is not "Made In China" or somewhere else it would have cost in the thousands range. Of coz some are willing to pay more for domestically made products but can everyone do so, i seriously doubt it as the price tag in everyone's heart is different, just like no individuals can be totally the same even in twins there are also differences.
 
#65
Rocket80 said:
Why is this sad? Isn't cheap labor and abundant natural resources a good thing?

If it wasn't for China god knows how much we'd be paying for not just designer stuff, but for everything.

Part of me gets that we want the designers to stay authentic and true to their brand, but another part of me thinks they train the chinese the same they train the italians, and the chinese material is the same as the italian material..it's just cheaper in both cases.

The companies, hopefully, make an effort to ensure the highest quality product so....I guess I don't worry about it too much.
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Sad is because what China has is what many countries do not have.

I am sure Chinese are good artisans, they can be as good as italian if not better, evident in their Historical Cultural Relic, Work of Art sought after by Collectors, if they can be such highly skilled Artisan since ancient times, i don't see why not in such an Era. Material wise of same quality is evident, a lambskin or nappa leather chosen by designer for their bag irregardless "Made In China" or "Made in Italy" will still be the same material use, hardware like zipper if it is "Lampo" it will be "Lampo", you can expect the same quality for every penny spent.

Another thing i would like to add on, Although many designer labels are "Made In China" but not all are available in China, even if they are, they are way more expensive in China than here, one good example is Coach. In this time of Recession, many tend to cut their spending but there is no such culture in Asia even in a time like this, Many designer labels are still cashing in Asia Dollars. Those who want them will still buy them irregardless of price. When i go China, Japan or Korea, many of those shoppers that are buying like nobody business in those designer labels stores majority are Asian. Many Asian are top notch designer too, look at Vera Wang & Jimmy Choo, Asian Label that made it international like Shanghai Tang, their pricing is no diffrent from italian brand.
 
#67
I am looking into all the brands listed on this thread; some are out of my personal price range; but I'm sure others will enjoy them!

Not knocking goods from China; but I would rather support businesses that keep their manufacturing in countries that pay an honest wage to their workers.

When I went looking for dinnerware, I had a rough time finding any that weren't from China, but I ended up with Fiesta Ware, made in the USA. I would like to support companies here rather than there, but it's been like looking for a needle in a haystack!

I really appreciate all the leads!
 
#68
Rocket80 said:
Why is this sad? Isn't cheap labor and abundant natural resources a good thing?


The companies, hopefully, make an effort to ensure the highest quality product so....I guess I don't worry about it too much.
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Some of us want goods that are not extremely "expensive" in terms of their human cost. That is the problem with cheap labor.

Some people and communities get a better standard of living from this kind of factory work, but many (including children) suffer. I don't think we try to consider this in all our purchasing, but in a luxury bag, many people do take this into account.
 
#69
One thing I heard lots of ppl saying is that LV is mostly made in China. It is said that they have at least 6 factories in Guangdong some Chinese had went there and took the pics, and Discovery Channel was trying to unveil this before this attemp was stopped. No offense but I tend to believe that's exactly why fake LV is all over the street in China even fake LV have rankings ranging from 5 dollars to hundred dollars.
 
#71
Rosenpetals said:
I am looking into all the brands listed on this thread; some are out of my personal price range; but I'm sure others will enjoy them!

Not knocking goods from China; but I would rather support businesses that keep their manufacturing in countries that pay an honest wage to their workers.

When I went looking for dinnerware, I had a rough time finding any that weren't from China, but I ended up with Fiesta Ware, made in the USA. I would like to support companies here rather than there, but it's been like looking for a needle in a haystack!

I really appreciate all the leads!
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Indeed never support Knockoff. Supporting legitimate businesses who manufacture in other countries like China etc, is fine. I have some Coach items actually they are very durable & hardy compared to other Labels even Luxury First-tiered Designer Labels like Gucci etc. They don't last like Coach but some Coach bags are rather heavy even without anything in it...haha so i rarely use them.

Fiesta Ware simple & nice. Most dinnerware are made of Chinaware/Porcelain which originated from China. I am sure there are also good quality Chinaware that are "Made In China". If you want style, elegance & quality, it has to be Royal Copenhagen, price is steep.
 
#72
jellyv said:
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Some of us want goods that are not extremely "expensive" in terms of their human cost. That is the problem with cheap labor.

Some people and communities get a better standard of living from this kind of factory work, but many (including children) suffer. I don't think we try to consider this in all our purchasing, but in a luxury bag, many people do take this into account.
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I believe in every kind of society there are such issues just like a coin has 2 sides. The Rich & the Poor are like "Heaven & Earth". Counterfeiters uses Child Labor, so never support Knockoffs of any kinds be it a pair of Fake Nike or a Fake LV. Legitimate businesses do not support Child Labor. Authentic Luxury Goods do not use Child Labor in any part of the manufacturing process, so no worries.
 
#73
Whos said:
One thing I heard lots of ppl saying is that LV is mostly made in China. It is said that they have at least 6 factories in Guangdong some Chinese had went there and took the pics, and Discovery Channel was trying to unveil this before this attemp was stopped. No offense but I tend to believe that's exactly why fake LV is all over the street in China even fake LV have rankings ranging from 5 dollars to hundred dollars.
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jellyv said:
Fake LV is made in China. It is not true that real LV is made there, or at least those rumors have never been confirmed.
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The Rumour of Authentic LV are being or have certain parts "Made In China" not really "Made In France" or "Made In Spain" has been around for years although nothing evident is confirmed as yet. I believe there is always a basis for a rumour to start. If you notice recent years, Counterfeiters are extremely fast in coming out with latest designs & style before they are officially launch or when they just launched especialy China Counerfeiters. Have you ever wonder why they can make an almost perfect replica so early or fast? Recent Stephen Sprouse Graffiti Collection, Fendi's Secret Code, Patented Fendi Du Jour even Twin Tote, China Counterfeiters are damned fast. It is not off the street of China, on the street are poor replicas, good replicas are in store or on the net, it is flooding globally in stores on the net. What is even shocking? In my previous trip to Korea city Seoul, I saw this cult jeans label "Evisu" Store, storefront look very good exactly like their Flagship store, i saw a pair of jeans with embroideries & austrian crystal studs cost only about USD$60 - 70, i suspect it is knockoff so did not get it. A normal pair of such jeans can easily cost few hundreds. I ask my friend who is a local there, he told me well the whole store might just be a fraud selling counterfeits as original, they have the funding of coz they can have nice storefront like the Real Evisu Store. Luckily i saved my 60 bucks because i feel the price is too good to be true for such good pair of designer jeans, its not a sample sale or anything its off the normal retail rack.

Some very good Knockoff can be sold at a quarter or half the cost of Original, cost almost a hand or leg. Some Knockoffs are so perfect that they can be passed off & sold as Originals. Shocking news like Fake Fendi off Walmart & Saks 5th Avenue, Fake Balenciaga off Bluefly, Former Haley's Couture who sold Fake Birkins.

Counterfeiters can be found everywhere not only China. Best Luxury Goods Counterfeiters no doubt are from China, Korea & Italy.
 
#74
botkier and hayden-harnett are NOT made in usa/brooklyn despite them marketing themselves as ny/brooklyn brands. most of botkier is made in indonesia and hayden-harnett is made in china. i think it's misleading to put brooklyn/nyc in your lining and tags (as hayden-harnett does) when the bags are all actually made in china (as the small label states inside the bags).
 
#75
Sassy said:
botkier and hayden-harnett are NOT made in usa/brooklyn despite them marketing themselves as ny/brooklyn brands. most of botkier is made in indonesia and hayden-harnett is made in china. i think it's misleading to put brooklyn/nyc in your lining and tags (as hayden-harnett does) when the bags are all actually made in china (as the small label states inside the bags).
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Hayden-harnett, i like their accessories though. Michael Kors also "Made In China", same goes for Diane Gail who established as Los Angeles brand. But Michael Kors bags are much better in term of quality to the latter.
 
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