Any brand of bags you won't buy for sure...

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At the moment (because this could change) I know I would not buy the following:

1) Hermes. Yes, I know that they are painstakingly crafted by hand. But I think 75% appeal of Hermes is due to the inordinately expensive price tag. When you are in a position to 1) spend that much money on a bag without blinking an eye or 2) spend your life saving money to buy a Birkin then you know your dedication to handbags is fierce. This is why there is such a loyal Hermes following. Hermes promotes an elitist mentality (the catalyst being the price tag and lack of availability)...heck, there's even a "waiting" list you have to be on. It is this mentality that drives 75% of their sales. Can any of us seriously say, after setting the sociology and emotional aspects aside, that a handbag is worth 3k? No, I imagine not. But then again, is my Chloe paddington - the actual piece of leather bag, not the stigma - worth $1600? No, it isn't. But buying a handbag has to do so much more than the actual piece of leather/canvas/lambskin sitting on our desk. It encompasses how it makes us feel (special, elitist, lucky, etc) and the "high" we have of owning it and how others perceive us. You can never place an amount of money on emotions and sentimentality and that is what designers capitalize on --- glamour, snobbiness and our subconscious susceptibility to it. So....can I convince myself at this moment that they are 3K beautiful? Not really. :shrugs: That aside, the boxy shape of the bag does not appeal to me. It is very formal. It is somewhat matriarchal for my 25 years. When I see young women with Birkins I always think it dates them. Maybe when I am older I will come to appreciate them. But right now nothing about Hermes really appeals to me.

2) Coach, D&B. When I see these bags I think..."high school". Some of the designs are really beautiful (such as the suede fall 2005 satchels) but otherwise the overall brand of Coach and D&B is diluted by their price tag. Personally to be considered "premier" by industry status the price tag has to reflect that. I bet if they had raised their prices to a ridiculous level and made it publicly known they were $$$ more people would 1) own them and 2) covet them. Why? Because people will recognize the value of the bag and appreciate the fact that it's expensive over the fact that the design might be unattractive. Louis Vuitton monogram and Gucci logo bags are a perfect example of brands that capitalize on brand recognition equaling buying status. I think it is interesting that people can love LV monogram but hate Coach monogram. The shapes of some of the models are not that different....but it has a lot to do with branding and imaging. Many may not be a fan of LV monogram bags, but when you see an authentic one it does register in your head how $$$ the bag is....the you attach that subconscious recognition to the bag carrier. It's human nature. Some bags are purely status symbols. There is nothing wrong with this. Rolex and Hermes capitalizes on it. By the way, why would you name a brand to the 2nd rate seating in an airplane? Coach? Not that there is anything wrong with flying coach - I do it all the time....but to sell handbags with that name? Ack. :push:
 
I can honestly say that at some point, during some season I have seen bags from every major designer that I've liked. There is really no designer out there whose entire line I like and always have.
At this point in my life however, I probably won't buy D&B or most things not leather (except Judith Leiber, some Kate Spade, and evening bags).
 
lordguinny said:
At the moment (because this could change) I know I would not buy the following:

1) Hermes. Yes, I know that they are painstakingly crafted by hand. But I think 75% appeal of Hermes is due to the inordinately expensive price tag. When you are in a position to 1) spend that much money on a bag without blinking an eye or 2) spend your life saving money to buy a Birkin then you know your dedication to handbags is fierce. This is why there is such a loyal Hermes following. Hermes promotes an elitist mentality (the catalyst being the price tag and lack of availability)...heck, there's even a "waiting" list you have to be on. It is this mentality that drives 75% of their sales. Can any of us seriously say, after setting the sociology and emotional aspects aside, that a handbag is worth 3k? No, I imagine not. But then again, is my Chloe paddington - the actual piece of leather bag, not the stigma - worth $1600? No, it isn't. But buying a handbag has to do so much more than the actual piece of leather/canvas/lambskin sitting on our desk. It encompasses how it makes us feel (special, elitist, lucky, etc) and the "high" we have of owning it and how others perceive us. You can never place an amount of money on emotions and sentimentality and that is what designers capitalize on --- glamour, snobbiness and our subconscious susceptibility to it. So....can I convince myself at this moment that they are 3K beautiful? Not really. :shrugs: That aside, the boxy shape of the bag does not appeal to me. It is very formal. It is somewhat matriarchal for my 25 years. When I see young women with Birkins I always think it dates them. Maybe when I am older I will come to appreciate them. But right now nothing about Hermes really appeals to me.

2) Coach, D&B. When I see these bags I think..."high school". Some of the designs are really beautiful (such as the suede fall 2005 satchels) but otherwise the overall brand of Coach and D&B is diluted by their price tag. Personally to be considered "premier" by industry status the price tag has to reflect that. I bet if they had raised their prices to a ridiculous level and made it publicly known they were $$$ more people would 1) own them and 2) covet them. Why? Because people will recognize the value of the bag and appreciate the fact that it's expensive over the fact that the design might be unattractive. Louis Vuitton monogram and Gucci logo bags are a perfect example of brands that capitalize on brand recognition equaling buying status. I think it is interesting that people can love LV monogram but hate Coach monogram. The shapes of some of the models are not that different....but it has a lot to do with branding and imaging. Many may not be a fan of LV monogram bags, but when you see an authentic one it does register in your head how $$$ the bag is....the you attach that subconscious recognition to the bag carrier. It's human nature. Some bags are purely status symbols. There is nothing wrong with this. Rolex and Hermes capitalizes on it. By the way, why would you name a brand to the 2nd rate seating in an airplane? Coach? Not that there is anything wrong with flying coach - I do it all the time....but to sell handbags with that name? Ack. :push:

Bravo you I second the whole hermes thing...that is exactly how I feel. The price tag and the boxy style do nothing for me. I am more drawn to Gucci, Chanel and Prada all my fav's. Also my only coach bag seems a tad bit cheap compared to my higher end bags. Now that I many Gucci bags and couple of Prada my coach does not have a luxury feel. I rather save for a Gucci, Chanel or Prada any day then buy a bag that just does not feel right. Great points well said:rochard: .
 
Mikan said:
I am a big believer in "never say never"... if a brand came out with the right bag for me, then I'd think about getting it regardless of which brand it was!

I'd probably never buy a super-expensive bag like a Hermes Birkin unless I won the lottery. Other than that, all bets are off!

This is exactly how I feel.

I will say this though, since I have gotten into more exspensive handbags, I see bags from Target in the like, and it's just hard to go back. BUT, if I like the style, who knows!!
 
I like this question alot.......

:nuts: Awesome post regarding Hermes...I agree...I really dont see why the Heremes bag costs so much yet has an old fashion, plain, and stiff look. I dont own one so I cant say much about quality but by what Ive seen, its not made tremendeously well compared to the LV (Damier collection is my Luv luv!) or others. It looks uncomfortable to carry..as I see so many ladies take their wallets out, some leave the closing parts open for comfort and it looks so messy...its very boxy and not very attractive on the hand. I just dont get it.

Also for Chanel...yes...I can see the attraction to it but the quality lacks in my opinion. Sometimes, I cannot stand the double Cs as I race by so many of them in black & white. Its pretty from afar but when you get close to it, it seems a bit stale and loud. My aunt has one and says, it feels cheap although it looks expensive....Dont hate me ladies...just my2 cents....:p

I dont mind paying for quality and for the recognition of the brand...but Hereme and Chanel seem work toward "Exclusivity" rather than quality or usefulness. A bag is still a bag after all....
 
No Dooney & Bourke, no Juicy Couture, haven't really ever seen a Prada bag I liked enought to spend the money. probably will never own a Kate Spade just because they're so trendy down here in Richmond VA. On another note, my mother just proudly told me she bought a Vera Bradley bag. I was like, Who the hell is Vera Bradley? Then I went to the mall and all the little debutantes and their mommies were carrying these quilted fabric bags that look like something you'd tote your knitting around in. Lo and behold---Vera Bradley. I priced them in a store just for laughs and let me tell you, I've spent more on a keychain than these things cost!! but EVERYONE had one.You gotta love the South. BTW I was carrying my Chloe Paddington that day and got several compliments and covetous looks. :)
 
Hermes for sure, as said under my name on the left and not only am I not buying anymore but I'm selling all of the scarves, bags, wallets, dresses and a watch that I have.

Why? Because they are an arrogant lot with their sales tactics. Also I say rubbish to Hermes patina myth: if you look at my Loewe briefcase I posted earlier in Loewe thread, can anyone show me a pic of Hermes box patina that looks better than this (and this is coming from a person who bought a box Birkin and Sac a Depeche Etriviere) and to be honest I love my Longchamp Pliage more than my Birkin/Kelly.
 
Goyard, Longchamp (except the cabas pliage), Lancel....
these brands just remind me too much of the French old conservative ladies who go to the church every week but have a condescending look on everyone of a "lower" social class.
 
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