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#1,171
mrk2014 said:
I have a question about the Penelope Hippie crossbody.

I see the listings on Ebay, and also images on the Web about this bag. In some the strap has like a shoulder piece, in others it doesn't and the bags (to me) look real in both cases, even having some of them the Coach price tags attached.

Did they put the shoulder piece in some and in others (perhaps Factory), they didn't?

Thanks.

Sample of the straps.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Penel...668?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item58b1383824


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-COACH-P...510?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item27e5028e4e
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You can never assume that because two bags have the same name, that they should have the same details. Even if bags have the same style number, the strap details can be different if the bags were made at different times OR if one was made for the full-price stores and one for the outlets. Coach also makes a lot of production changes on the fly and they don't change style numbers if they're only changing a small detail.

Without seeing the creeds of either bag it's impossible to guess if that's the case here or even which bag may have been made for the full-price stores and which for the factory. And BTW, the first "gallery" picture of the two-tone bag is NOT of the actual bag being sold, it's a photo stolen from Coach's website that may or may NOT be what the final product looks like. You can't use it as a comparison.

Here's a listing for the same style but in the Made-For-Factory version that doesn't seem to have any special detailing at all on the strap and no exotic "snakeskin" embossing at all , it just looks like plain leather:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121365967441?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

You can't always expect Coach's pre-production studio photos to match the final product, and you can't depend on the same style number having the same details between the Boutique and the Factory bags.

And whether or not a bag has a Coach price tag doesn't mean it's genuine. Why wouldn't fakes makers be able to supply fake price tags? It takes a lot more to prove a bag is real than a piece of paper, or even "looking real". Comparisons with other bags can help but the reasons some bags may have different details have to be kept in mind too.
 
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#1,172
BeenBurned said:
L04M-1894

I didn't find a reference to this serial number but it's been showing up on a number of fakes in a variety of different styles.

Style 1894 should be a hamptons tote. (There may also be fakes that appear to be the "correct" style, though most are different styles:
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Thanks, BB.

(I don't want to add any more to the Fakes list if possible, it's just getting too unweildy. Hopefully people will check the style number before bidding. We'll just keep adding numbers here and the next time I re-do the list I'll try and add them)
 
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#1,173
Hyacinth said:
You can never assume that because two bags have the same name, that they should have the same details. Even if bags have the same style number, the strap details can be different if the bags were made at different times OR if one was made for the full-price stores and one for the outlets. Coach also makes a lot of production changes on the fly and they don't change style numbers if they're only changing a small detail.

Without seeing the creeds of either bag it's impossible to guess if that's the case here or even which bag may have been made for the full-price stores and which for the factory. And BTW, the first "gallery" picture of the two-tone bag is NOT of the actual bag being sold, it's a photo stolen from Coach's website that may or may NOT be what the final product looks like. You can't use it as a comparison.

Here's a listing for the same style but in the Made-For-Factory version that doesn't seem to have any special detailing at all on the strap and no exotic "snakeskin" embossing at all , it just looks like plain leather:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121365967441?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

You can't always expect Coach's pre-production studio photos to match the final product, and you can't depend on the same style number having the same details between the Boutique and the Factory bags.

And whether or not a bag has a Coach price tag doesn't mean it's genuine. Why wouldn't fakes makers be able to supply fake price tags? It takes a lot more to prove a bag is real than a piece of paper, or even "looking real". Comparisons with other bags can help but the reasons some bags may have different details have to be kept in mind too.
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Thank you, your reply and explanation. Aside from the bags being real or not having same detailing, I already know that it's case by case, to determine if one in particular is authentic and more info is needed, these were random pictures to help with my question.
Now I know there is the possibility of a certain style bag, having different detailing depending perhaps on date of production, if for retail store, factory outlet, etc... :smile1:
 
#1,174
Hyacinth said:
Thanks, BB.

(I don't want to add any more to the Fakes list if possible, it's just getting too unweildy. Hopefully people will check the style number before bidding. We'll just keep adding numbers here and the next time I re-do the list I'll try and add them)
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I didn't expect you to add this serial number to your fakes list. I merely posted it because there have been a few with that number and if someone googled it, they'd be made aware that they should ask questions before buying.
 
#1,178
Two.time.bags said:
Thanks Hyacinth. I thought I was going crazy but I've just been confused by a number of sellers recently who have been listing Basic Bags as Convertible Clutch bags which are quite similar to Pocket Purses but nothing like Basic Bags.
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Feel free to send them the photos or a link to this page. They're not alike at all except for the size and general shape.
 
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#1,180
rvkitty said:
I didn't know where to post this and the forum won't let me start a new thread. Does anyone know if UElegant at Amazon.com sells authentic Coach items? They have over 400 up there now. And they have 4.8 out of 5 stars, but I'm still very leary. Does anyone have any experience with them? They have a hard-to-find bag that I want, but if I spend over $200 for a fake I'll be really mad.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/node/index...U836XK&merchant=A1JAF0K8U836XK&qid=1403698431
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Post a link to the bag in question in the 'Authenticate This Coach' thread and ask nicely for authentication.

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-855067-337.html
 
#1,183
I'm posting this as another example of why we need to see actual pictures of a bag in order to authenticate it. Just because a serial and or style number (seemingly) matches the style of bag it's supposed to be doesn't mean that the bag is authentic.

Do not believe any guide that tells you to "google the serial number and if the style matches, the bag is authentic" or to "call Coach and tell them the serial number and they can tell you if it's genuine or not."

This is Coach's stock photo of style 6091, a signature clip hobo:

6091Khaki.jpg


The following are fakes from 2 different ebay sellers:

Seller bettye7401:

$_57.JPG


And seller lunasmoon:

$_57.JPG


$_57.JPG
 
#1,184
Hello ladies! I don't know of an area to ask this so I chose here. There is an ebay auction for a NWT keychain, the keychain is authentic, but I'm pretty positive that the price tag was taken from another fob. (link is posted below)

For one thing, the keychain is an older style with a little newer style tag and as far as I can tell, the number belongs to a later style penguin fob. The style number looks to be F66659, can you take a look and see if you agree?

The keychain looks new, but the nwt's is misleading if it's not the correct price tag.....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Moon-...Accessories&hash=item2ed396ae24#ht_139wt_1151
 
#1,185
Suzanne B. said:
Hello ladies! I don't know of an area to ask this so I chose here. There is an ebay auction for a NWT keychain, the keychain is authentic, but I'm pretty positive that the price tag was taken from another fob. (link is posted below)

For one thing, the keychain is an older style with a little newer style tag and as far as I can tell, the number belongs to a later style penguin fob. The style number looks to be F66659, can you take a look and see if you agree?

The keychain looks new, but the nwt's is misleading if it's not the correct price tag.....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Moon-...Accessories&hash=item2ed396ae24#ht_139wt_1151
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You're right on all points. The Star and Moon keychain was style number 92031 and I think was from 2007. The Penguin 66659 was just from the last year and made for the Factory stores at at alleged "retail" of $38.

The keychain in the listing looks real but the seller apparently isn't to be trusted. If that isn't the right tag then it's NOT "NWT".
 
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