Personally I get more of a thrill from bags that have the glued-in number than from those that are stamped. I don't know if they are considered by all collectors to be more collectable. (The funny thing is I find them more exciting than the earlier bags that had no number!) No one outside of Coach knows the exact dates they used them. The theory I have is that they may have used the glued-in numbers at the same time they were using stamped numbers. It allowed them to add the number after a bag was completed. It's possible that the stamping equipment was out of order for a period of time and they had a backlog of bags that needed numbers. Or, some workers had access to the machine that stamped the number with the creed and others didn't. I've seen no evidence that it was only used on certain styles. It seems to have only been used during the time that the creed included the copyright symbol. The dates that the copyright symbol was used are also not clear. I have a bag from 1980 that has the glued in serial number and the copyright symbol. However, apparently Coach used the copyright symbol before they had obtained a copyright. To make things even more confusing, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that bags with lower numbers are older than those with higher numbers.
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Thanks Whateve. Another Coach mystery! There must be people who worked in the NYC plant who would know the answers to these and other questions if someone had the time and energy to track them down!
Was the glued-in number only used in the NYC plant?
You're welcome. Yes. As far as I can tell, it was used only for a few years around 1980, way before they opened any other plants.
Coach has an archivist on staff who probably has most of the answers. http://www.ruemag.com/editors-picks...lby-interviews-jed-winokur-archivist-at-coach
One of his jobs is to find old Coach bags to add to the archives. He has bought a few from tpf members.
Wow what a job! I was drooling at some of the bags I glimpsed. Thanks for sharing that Whateve.
Whateve, did you see that I won a basic bag with the glued-in serial number? BeenBurned authenticated it for me yesterday. It's coming from Tunisia so it'll take a while to get here. Can't wait!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221305128459?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Have there been any fakes with the glued-in serial number?
I did see that! Congratulations! I've never seen any fakes with a glued-in serial number. It seems like it would be more work for a counterfeiter. Once I bought a fake basic bag with a Made in the United States creed and supposedly unique serial number. It was really well made too - it took me awhile to figure out it was fake.
Instead of the dot on the cloth tag, this wristlet from around 2006 (I think) has a target. Have you seen this before? Do you think it is MFF or is it FP that was stamped after it went to factory?
Also, I have a 1999 station bag with an adjustable strap. Did these ever come with an adjustable strap or did someone switch the strap with a Willis?
Also, I have a 1999 station bag with an adjustable strap. Did these ever come with an adjustable strap or did someone switch the strap with a Willis?
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No idea about the wristlet, sorry.
The 1999 Holiday catalog shows an adjustable 48" strap on the Station Bag.
Although I don't know for sure, it's my belief that the wristlet is a boutique item that was sent to the outlet.
My reason for this hypothesis is that I have a MFF wristlet from approximately the same time. I purchased it from the outlet and it has the dot. This tells me they were using dots back then for MFF items.
I'm pretty sure it is real want to make sure
Willis no. J5D- 5130
What color is this? I think rare (what I have seen other blogs)
Taupe tan or mushroom tan?!!
Want to make sure SN match
Do people really make fake vintage coach bags? I thought I was safe in buying them!
Why did you post the same thing in at least three different places on the forum?