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#662
whateve said:
When did Coach add the sentence about superior craftsmanship and enduring quality to the creed? My bags from 1997 and 1998 don't have it. This bag from 2000 has it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-VINTA...344?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4162e3b0d0

I can't remember ever seeing it on a bag this old.
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They changed creed wording several times during the 1990s and early 2000s. The "quality" wording was originally longer than it is now and just started to be used as production switched over to China, so I'd say right around 2000. Bags that were still made in the US, Costa Rica, Turkey, etc kept using the older "variations" creed although I've seen a few Chinese creed bags that may or may not be genuine still using the older creed too, even in the classic leathers from the last 6 or 7 years. Like with everything else, there's a lot of inconsistancy.

I guess Coach was - and is - trying to convince buyers that the Chinese-made bags were just as high-quality as the older ones. :graucho:
 
#663
Hyacinth said:
They changed creed wording several times during the 1990s and early 2000s. The "quality" wording was originally longer than it is now and just started to be used as production switched over to China, so I'd say right around 2000. Bags that were still made in the US, Costa Rica, Turkey, etc kept using the older "variations" creed although I've seen a few Chinese creed bags that may or may not be genuine still using the older creed too, even in the classic leathers from the last 6 or 7 years. Like with everything else, there's a lot of inconsistancy.

I guess Coach was - and is - trying to convince buyers that the Chinese-made bags were just as high-quality as the older ones. :graucho:
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thank you! Since this bag was made in 2000 in the US, rather than China, would you say that it is unusual that it has the "quality" wording?
 
#664
whateve said:
thank you! Since this bag was made in 2000 in the US, rather than China, would you say that it is unusual that it has the "quality" wording?
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Unusual, but not a problem. They may have been due for a new creed stamp anyway and received one of the updated ones.. But if you're worried, just post photos at the Authenticate thread. Remember, the most consistent thing about Coach is their inconsistentcy.
 
#665
thank goodness for all this info!!!:tup:


i got my swingpack today that i ordered from coach factory outlet online and it does not have the creed stamp in it!:shucks: i really love that part about the bags and would have ordered one i saw on ebay that did have this if i had known that they all did not come with the creed. oh well........i still love it. ;) but if i had bought it from a seller on ebay i would have been wondering wether or not it was a fake! good to have this info available.
 
#666
bag-princess said:
thank goodness for all this info!!!:tup:


i got my swingpack today that i ordered from coach factory outlet online and it does not have the creed stamp in it!:shucks: i really love that part about the bags and would have ordered one i saw on ebay that did have this if i had known that they all did not come with the creed. oh well........i still love it. ;) but if i had bought it from a seller on ebay i would have been wondering wether or not it was a fake! good to have this info available.
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If you bought from ebay, you could have posted and had it authenticated (preferably before or) after the sale.
 
#668
bag-princess said:
thank goodness for all this info!!!:tup:


i got my swingpack today that i ordered from coach factory outlet online and it does not have the creed stamp in it!:shucks: i really love that part about the bags and would have ordered one i saw on ebay that did have this if i had known that they all did not come with the creed. oh well........i still love it. ;) but if i had bought it from a seller on ebay i would have been wondering wether or not it was a fake! good to have this info available.
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As long as you ordered from the invitation-only Factory site you're safe. (I'm just wondering how long it will be before some scammer spoofs that site).

Many smaller bags and accessories don't have creeds or serials. Always have any "designer" bags checked here before buying. And Search the whole tPF Coach forum if there's a specific subject you need information about, there are tens of thousands of posts with a lot of good information here.
 
#669
yes it was the "invitation only" site so i don't have a problem with it being authentic or not. i only have a few coach handbags/accessories at this point but they ALL have the coach creed/serial numbers in them. even my wristlets and wallets so i just assumed that they included this on all their products!:shrugs: like i said - it is just a feature of the coach products that i love to see and i was disappointed that it was not on the swingpack that i purchased from their site.
 
#675
cpursee said:
thanks. do you know where I can report this replica site? thanks
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Coach's website has information about reporting fakes sellers and websites under the link for Company Info - Counterfeit Education:
http://www.coach.com/online/handbag.../InvestorRelations/ReportingCoachCounterfeits


Counterfeit Education

WHAT IS COUNTERFEITING?


  • • Counterfeiting is the passing off of imitation products as authentic brand-name goods.

  • • Counterfeit Coach products are typically of poor quality and lack the details that make each Coach bag high-quality.

  • • Counterfeiting has been linked to organized crime, child labor, and terrorism. It is estimated that counterfeiting costs the United States economy 250 to 500 billion dollars a year.


WHAT COACH DOES


  • • Coach vigorously pursues counterfeiters and the shops, websites, vendors, and flea markets that sell counterfeit Coach merchandise.

  • • We work with local, state, and federal law enforcement as well as U.S and foreign customs officials to try to stop the sale of counterfeit goods at every point in the supply chain.

  • • Coach DOES NOT authenticate merchandise or determine whether serial numbers match actual Coach items. If you purchase an item from an authorized Coach retailer, you are guaranteed the item is authentic.


WHERE TO BUY COACH PRODUCTS


  • • Coach does not offer its products for sale through individuals, street vendors, internet auctions, independent boutiques, flea markets, or house parties.

  • • The ONLY authorized store that Coach offers its merchandise for sale are:
    • º Coach Stores
    • º Coach Factory Stores
    • º Authorized Department Stores (see store locator of Coach.com)

  • Remember: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.


BUYING COACH ONLINE


  • •The only website owned and operated by Coach to sell Coach products online is www.coach.com

  • • The ONLY authorized third-party websites that sell Coach products are:


  • • Examples of websites that have sold counterfeit Coach products:
    • • Coachoutletfactory.com, Coachbags.biz, Coachoutletsbags.com


  • [*]• WARNING: Counterfeit websites often times use the word COACH in the URL and have content and a layout similar to www.coach.com


REPORTING COUNTERFEITS


  • • To report counterfeits, please call the Coach counterfeit hotline at 877-7TURNLOCK (877-788765625) or email the information requested below to [email protected]. This can be done anonymously.

  • • The following information is useful to Coach to take action against a counterfeiter:

    • º Location, Name, and Address
    • º Type of location (retail store, flea market, internet, etc.)
    • º Quantities and styles of products being sold
    • º Do the items say Coach or use any of our Trademarks (i.e. Signature C design, Coach Lozenge, Horse & Carriage logo)?
 
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