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#271
New2Coach said:
Where is the thread for fakes??? Help needed in getting this reported.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110271821756
Almost could pass. Pretty good fake for a newbie. She even lists it as a grade A Coach rep.
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That one's already gone, but if you're asking if a bag is fake, the Authenticate This thread is under Coach Shopping -
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-302470.html

If you want to point out a really ugly fake and you're SURE it's counterfeit, go to Coach and then to Funniest/Worst Fakes Ever! -
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/funniest-worst-fakes-ever-coach-edition-28355.html

Either way, if it's fake it'll get reported.
 
#273
I have a legacy stripe quedtion, particularly on small items like the wristlet and framed wristlet. Are the colors supposed to be consistently the same in the same place? For instance, if this is the drilldown, does that mean the green stripe will always be on the bottom?
 
#274
dimsum said:
I have a legacy stripe quedtion, particularly on small items like the wristlet and framed wristlet. Are the colors supposed to be consistently the same in the same place? For instance, if this is the drilldown, does that mean the green stripe will always be on the bottom?
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The placement of the colored stripes can vary, though the color of the stripes will always be in a set order. It depends on at which point the sheet of fabric was cut.
 
#276
leenie0720 said:
Does this seem like a correct number? when would this have been made? L2S7587 please help
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There's no way to tell if a number is correct or a bag is genuine without seeing pictures of the bag. Many fakes have the correct numbers. If the item is genuine it would be from 2002, but there's no way of being sure if that's correct without seeing the item.
 
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#279
That makes more sense. But if you need to know if that specific bag is ok, you should ask at the Authenticate This thread. If you just want to know if it's possible for that bag to have that number, I can only say the year code and first part of the number is possible. I'm not familiar with that style and don't know if that's the right style number, but someone at Authenticate This will probably know.
 
#280
Hyacinth said:
That makes more sense. But if you need to know if that specific bag is ok, you should ask at the Authenticate This thread. If you just want to know if it's possible for that bag to have that number, I can only say the year code and first part of the number is possible. I'm not familiar with that style and don't know if that's the right style number, but someone at Authenticate This will probably know.
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:tup: I was interested in the numbers. Ive never seen the "F" thing before.
 
#282
I have a question about the Tattersall pattern. Is it the same as the legacy stripe where there's a specific pattern of colors following each other? And if so, are they specific to direction as well? For instance if it goes blue, green, orange yellow (just making up he color pattern), then only the lines that are horizontal go in that pattern and the vertical lines have their own color order?

I've seen some wallets on Ebay that match the same pattern in the same direction as the Coach website, but I've also seen ones that match the color order but are different directions. So if on Coach the order of colours are for the horizontal stripes, the Ebay wallet will have the same order but for the vertical stripes.

Clear as mud? Am I making any sense? lol!
 
#283
Wow! So, okay, my diamond in the rough, according to your GREAT post is def. 70's. Is there anyway I can learn more about my bag? It's number is:826-4628. Don't hate me, I bought it for $1 this morning at a tag-sale.... YEAH!!!
 
#284
Please be very careful buying from any sellers with low Feedback. There is a "gang" or maybe even just one person using multiple IDs that are leaving each other phony Feedback, using photos stolen from Coach, other sellers and fakes-selling websites, and who often list dozens more items with off-Ebay links on their auction pages.

There's more information at the Ebay Board:
http://forum.purseblog.com/ebay-for...-fashion-mall-warning-377766.html#post8449737
 
#285
It looks like the Coach Fake Serial Numbers thread at Ebay's Shoes & Purses forum has been updated, so with Daria48's permission I'm going to post it here. These are serial numbers often found on fakes, especially older ones but also show up on some new bags. Just because a serial number is not on this list, that doesn't mean the bag is genuine. A lot of fakes have correct serial numbers.

The list and any updates can be found at Ebay:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=1000685987&start=0

Bags with any serial numbers from this first group are ALWAYS fake:
NT-4903
NT-4908
NT-4115
NT-4157
NT-9992
DK-8674
TF-6823
TN-4136
TN-4186
TN-9085
TN-9096
TN-9927
TN-9951

4C-8624
4C-9911
40-8624
7H-7456


ANY Coach bag with only two letters or one number and one letter to the left of the hyphen can be assumed to be fake.

501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, etc., followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea".

Coach never made bags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 digits like this:
"xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers

Coach never made "classic" leather bags with matching sewn-on cell phone holders.

H4B-0516

H4B-0678

H4B-0517

H4B-0520

H4B-0532

HRB-0516


Probably ANY serial number beginning with H4B followed by a style # beginning with 0 is probably fake (a Scooter Bag H4B-9893 and a Bucket Bag H4B-9948 are two of the exceptions), these numbers would only have been used in briefcases.

012-3445

A2G-6094 and A2J-6094 - or ANY bag ending in 6094 - Fake if it's NOT a Demi Bag like this, and even if the style matches, the bag can still be fake:
http://www.coach.com/assets/product_images/drilldown2/6094_d2.jpg

A5B-3906 - fake Sonoma Double Zip Bags

J4D-4133 - Fake if it's NOT a Waverly Bag

L4C-9941 or LAC-9941

M4N-4154
Anything starting with M4N is suspect.

0444-317, 0444-316 AND 0444-315 and possibly others beginning with 0444 - some "classic" fakes are showing up with these numbers and have a number of mistakes in the creed stamps and on the bags themselves. Assume they're all fake

00138 - always fake, with or without any numbers or letters in front of it

308-9875

308-9937 - probably fake

DEJ-9816 and ECC-9816 - fake prefix and incorret suffix, 9816 belongs to a "classic" Duffle Sac

There are some ending in -9927 but aren't Willis Bags

There are fake Signature Stripe Denim Totes and Signature Stripe Denim Satchels using fake serial numbers ending in 11192 and 11190. All these bags are counterfeit. Coach hasn't used these numbers in any of their bags.

Any recent or current model bag with a serial prefix of M3U- is fake. A genuine bag with this number would have been made in 2003.

Any bag with a style number of 6047 that isn't a fabric Signature Satchel like this one is a counterfeit:
http://www.coach.com/assets/product_images/drilldown2/6047_d2.jpg

The counterfeiters also use many legitimate-looking serial numbers but on the wrong style bags or accessories, like -5659 which should only be on a Scribble Tote, -6094 which should only be on a Signature Demi, and -1417 which should only be on an East-West Leather duffle. Accessories with style #5077 are fake, that number belongs to an Optic Bee Tote.

Older bags beginning with K3H-, J8H-, and M4B- prefixes are possible counterfeits especially if the font of the digits of the serial number seems slightly different.

Fake numbers L4C-9941 and LAC-9941 and possibly other combinations ending in 9941 are showing up on a variety of classic-looking leather bags, most with badly wrinkled "stretch-marked" leather and a "Coach" imprint somewhere on the front of the bag, usually off-center. They'll sometimes have cell phone holders sewn on the side of the bag.

GAC- and GAG- prefixes have also turned up lately. ANY bag with just three LETTERS to the left of the dash is fake. Be careful not to mistake a Zero in the center position for the letter O though, all bags made in 2000 will have a zero in the center.

we've seen several Coaches with this serial number:
P7B-4907
Not only are the bags NOT Sonoma Small Bucket Zips, but the first digit "P" is completely wrong and would never be used on ANY Coach. Any bag with this serial number is counterfeit.

Fakes are also showing up with the # J4N-4082 which belongs ONLY to a Soho Bag from 1994 and should look like this:
http://web.archive.org/web/19970214040415/www.coach.com/product/index.html

Any bag with a serial # ending in 9956 needs to be looked at by someone very familiar with Coach, this number should only be on a leather Pelham Bag.

More fake "classic' leather Coaches are showing up with bad creeds and the bogus "overstamping lines" above and below the serial numbers like I mentioned in post # 39. The latest one is a fake light blue tote (always be careful with older bags in unusual colors, Coach's classic leather colors were pretty conservative so anything besides the usual black, brown, navy, mahogany, British Tan, dark green etc should be examined closely).
Watch for these numbers - 0212-578 and 1212-578

Any bag (especially any in the Hippie Flap style) with a serial number of H6S-9135 should be referred to the posters at this board for authentication. The style number belongs only to a Leather Hippie Flap bag but the ones we've seen with this number are either the wrong fabric or have invalid code digits and badly-stamped creeds. A genuine Hippie Flap will NEVER have this serial number prefix.

Also look VERY carefully at classic bags beginning with " H6M- " and with "Made in the United States" at the bottom of the creed, quite a few fakes seem to use this prefix.

And a lot of newer style Coaches are showing up with only a 5-digit number after the "No", either on the same line as the last words of the creed or by itself at the bottom of the patch - number 00138 is the most common. All these are fake. Coach serial numbers will never have only five digits.

Serial numbers beginning with the letters N thru Z are not valid Coach numbers and are almost certainly fake

Any bag with a tag or patch that says "Sports Coach" is NOT a genuine Coach

Please remember, just because a Coach item seems to have the right style number, or looks just like the picture from Coach's website, that doesn't mean it's genuine.

Always ask at the tPF Coach Authenticate This forum or the Ebay Purses Forum if you're not sure:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-302470.html
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum.jspa?forumID=1000000009

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