Well, oops I did it again, I bought for the PCE, one large camel Ergo, and I could not stand it that I still could use the coupon and ordered a large black one. No I have two hobo's. I loaded my camel one up today and realized I do not even have enough stuff to fill it and it sort of flops half empty . It is a bit heavy, but when I put more in it to fill it for it is so big, it does get heavy, not like legacy, but a bit heavier on my back. Had I known that, I would have gotten the slim flap in signature or the hippie bag in signature. Darn it and one is on DH charge. What to do what to do...buyers remorse...I canot go back to the store and lose the 25%.. and it is really embarrassing. for they are so nice there. Why do I change my mind once I put my stuff in thiings...and have them for a few days? Awful...habit....curses........curses... EEEEEEK