Why the Tiffany Bashing?

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And they don't get that treating us as inferior or incapable of affording their items (which to me are ridiculously overpriced), kills THEIR commission.

That is pretty sh*tty. I'm sorry you had such an awful experience at Tiffany. If I were you, I'd never want to shop there either. I guess I'm lucky that there are so many stores in the SoCal area so I could, essentially, shop for my own fine jewelry SA. Tiffany should really work on universalizing their CS like other fine jewelry stores (HW).
 
Kohl mascara, yes jewelry in general does have bad resale value like about everything else really, almost everything loses value after you walk out of the store, just think about our designer purses, etc. But jewelry is different in that vintage and antique jewelry will start increasing in value (of course not everything) it is especially true in the case of certain periods (think of Art Deco, Edwardian jewelry, etc.) and designer pieces. Those do tend to sell well and it is easier to try to sell designer jewelry. Of course I meant is as a generalization only not that anyone would ever intend to sell their Erings. There is definitely a market for used designer pieces.
 
Agreed. They could learn a great deal from competitors.

I like some of their designs but the way we were treated, and still are, I cannot give them my money in good conscience. I also don't find their items worth the price they charge, especially their diamonds, since they mark them up so much! I don't know if I would be so anti-Tiffany if I hadn't gone through what I did with them, or not...
 
A lot of people mentioned that jewelry, especially diamond jewelry have really bad resale values, but that shouldn't be the driving force behind their decision. At least for me, I never plan on selling my e-ring! But I agree that I've seen designer brands sell higher for the same non-designer product (except at certain places like pawn shops where they only sell for the amount of gold, etc. in the piece).

Yes, this is definitley true. I was browsing at the jewelry district and I met the owner of a shop who was trying to sell me a 2ct pear shape diamond. He noticed my Tiffany ring and asked me if I was interested in selling it to him. I said no of course and he went on telling me that he sells over $200K of Tiffany items online. He said nothing is moving except for designer pieces so he goes to auctions and estate sale looking for designer pieces to resell.
 
Agreed. They could learn a great deal from competitors.

I like some of their designs but the way we were treated, and still are, I cannot give them my money in good conscience. I also don't find their items worth the price they charge, especially their diamonds, since they mark them up so much! I don't know if I would be so anti-Tiffany if I hadn't gone through what I did with them, or not...

I understand why you would never shop at Tiffany again. I mean, you have a VALID reason. Other people that like to bash Tiffany haven't gone through what you did to justify their dislike for the name. What they did to you was unconscionable and to let something like that happen says a lot about the store and management.
 
My e-ring is Tiffany and I get a lot of bashing over it....not so direct but just a lot of "why would anybody pay that markup" type of commentary...I don't know why people think it's acceptable to say that...I would never ever say the reverse. It happens a lot when I'm in a group of girls and we're just talking about weddings. I don't mind the bashing though when it's just general remarks...but sometimes I think people take it very personally for some reason...like you are offending them in some manner by having gone to Tiffany.

The only statements that really seem debatable to me is when I hear the remark that non branded diamonds are of "better value than of Tiffany." In what way? In that if you want to spend XXX amount of money that you will get something that covers more of your finger if you don't go to Tiffany?

If you want to apply such blunt mechanisms of evaluation then I would say that the entire diamond market is massively inflated and for that reason your average Tiffany ring is going to keep a much higher % of it's value in resale than the average non branded ring. Note that I say average and not the types of stones that are 3 CT+ flawless D....which are in a different resale category of themselves.

In the end it's a ring on your hand and hopefully you will wear it for the rest of your life and it will bring you great pleasure...so why bring "good value" in the equation? I don't think those conversations lead anywhere good in my opinion..
 
I'm laughing with you here because I speak and understand fluent Chinese and I'm black and when I was over there it I was always cracking up at the things people were saying about me right in front of my face because they always assumed I couldn't understand. Sometimes I would make a remark so they knew I understood but sometimes I didn't because it was just so funny.

The most common things I heard:''At least her hair is black" (when brushed down)

"how does she get her hair to do that?" (when it was natural and curly). Once I heard someone reply to this "It's fake--I lived in the US and they do that with fake hair"

"Her nose is not THAT big" (I heard this one all the time).

"Nice eyes; has double eyelid" (This is apparently a good thing; but when they got closer then it was always
"Eww, how creepy, she has green eyes")

"She's not all THAT dark, if she put on lighter colored foundation would look okay."

"I wonder what this, that or the other thing she's wearing cost"

(They were always entirely dissecting my clothes and saying what they liked or did not like).

"My g-d, feet so big. Like man."

"Foreigners are big in the bust, aren't they".

Another common thing I'd hear was people discussing where I could be from. they knew I wasn't American because "ALL Americans have golden-yellow hair"!

However to my face when people knew I understood, I never heard any of these things. Then it was always, "Oh, you speak such good Chinese, how amazing" (with no shame at all about whatever they had just been saying);
"oh, you're so pretty" "oh, you're so smart".

However, no one ever thought I was stealing anything. And only children ever followed me, in the countryside (usually yelling 'big eyes! big eyes!" until their mothers grabbed them and pulled them away)

And you should have heard what they had to say about my friend who is about five foot ten with long red hair and very pale (who was ALSO fluent in Chinese). However when they knew she understood them, they would ask her let someone take a photograph with them and her. They never asked me that. Apparently I was strange, but not so strange that they wanted to preserve me forever for friends to stare at in the family photo album.

This was 30 years ago--I've heard that people are more used to foreigners now and much more sophisticated. They were the nicest people by the way--treated me very kindly--I don't mean this to sound as if I thought they were awful or didn't have a good time.

And even here in America when I speak Mandarin to someone you should see their jaw drop to their feet. Usually the coversation goes like this, I say hello and they start saying how great I speak Chinese, because a lot of foreigners can say 'ni hao' and they're not really surprised at that, then I start really talking and they go into total shock. It's really very funny (but of course I don't laugh to their face).

This is hilarious! I also have a friend who is from Nigeria who speaks fluent Chinese and she has reported very similar remarks. Her favorite was this one:

"Oh she is so tall.....very HANDSOME!!" (Swai guh if you understand)...hahaha
 
I'll be perfectly honest here and say that while I've seen a LOT of E-rings, I lack the expertise (I know, I know...shocking!) to recognize the Tiffany diamond in a crowd.

There are many, many rings......lots of classic solitaires set in 6-prongs, but honestly? Just looking at it w/o seeing the stamp, you could torture me & I still wouldn't be able to tell you if it's Tiffany or something else.

My point? I think brand names & here Tiffany specifically, soothes the soul, calms the fiancee, & ignites a passion for the woman who CRAVES & LOVES Tiffany. That's all. SHE is the only one who knows what she wears on her finger. And for some woman, it's all about the name.
 
I'll be perfectly honest here and say that while I've seen a LOT of E-rings, I lack the expertise (I know, I know...shocking!) to recognize the Tiffany diamond in a crowd.

There are many, many rings......lots of classic solitaires set in 6-prongs, but honestly? Just looking at it w/o seeing the stamp, you could torture me & I still wouldn't be able to tell you if it's Tiffany or something else.

My point? I think brand names & here Tiffany specifically, soothes the soul, calms the fiancee, & ignites a passion for the woman who CRAVES & LOVES Tiffany. That's all. SHE is the only one who knows what she wears on her finger. And for some woman, it's all about the name.
LOL! I'm with you! I like what I like...but if someone feels a Tiffany e-ring is their dream ring, GET IT!!! Life's short!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black Jade...you made my day, thanks!
 
LOL! I'm with you! I like what I like...but if someone feels a Tiffany e-ring is their dream ring, GET IT!!! Life's short!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Black Jade...you made my day, thanks!

Yes, life is too short. My only problem is justifying and/or rationalizing the price difference for the name. That is why we chose to go custom. But I LOVE Tiffanys......then again......I love all jewellery stores! ;)

Black Jade is awesome. I always look forward to her posts :smile1: Whenever I see her name, I know I'm in for some excellent reading!
 
Billet - I was so disappointed but at the same time the warmth doesn't bother me. At first I thought I imagined it. Haha i think the unplated look meshs better for some pieces than others. Like the trinity ring is better so it flows better with the tone of the ring? my ering and both our bands are from a reputable tacori dealer and he has included lifetime plating for my rings luckily. I'll probably go back and forth on it still knowing me.

Black jade - so impressive! Haha its fun to hear it as rude as it is. I've been lucky to travel a lot. And visit hong king and china quite often, I can see it's gotten better too but not great. I could only imagine the look on thier faces when you can speak fluently. I'm stronger in my Cantonese and working on speaking more mandarin. DF is mandarin and it's been hard to adjust from the tones I hear in Beijing vs Taiwan. Languages fascinate me!

Kohl - DF thought I was Korean when we first started dating too! Haha apparently my eyes make people question it. Ive also been asked if I was Thai. And people have said I could have been Brenda Song's double as a kid. (though not now! I think she is gorgeous!)
 
I'm always surprised by the stories of being followed by security or feeling like Sa's ignore people due to their looks. I've never seen security at NM or Kohl's. I don't dress to shop at high end places, often times I'm in nicer gym clothes even, ponytail and maybe mascara only. So I know I am not looking like I'm there to spend.

As far as people saying they'd prefer Cartier or Harry Winston at Tiffany's price point that wouldn't bother me. It's just preference. I see people say it in Chanel and other forums that aren't jewelry related.
 
ame - lol. There are some people that can wake up in the morning and pull their hair in a ponytail, put on anything and look gorgeous. I wish I could be like that!

whoops - I go to school really close to K-town in LA and all the Korean ladies at the stores always speak to me in Korean, and since I don't understand what they're saying, I just smile and nod at them! My brother gets mistaken as Korean as well because of his small narrow eyes but I have big eyes. . .so weird. I guess it has to be my wide looking flat face LOL.
 
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