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I have a passion for beauty and art. I have spent portions of my life in museums staring endlessly at pieces I feel a connection with. I covet them and wish to acquire them so that I may have immediate and limitless access to them when I feel the need. Alas, for many of these pieces I cannot (yet? optimistic here) afford and so I continue haunting the galleries and halls to gain access to them but this is alone is never satisfactory. To me, some of the bags I have and want are like these pieces of art in 3D. I like the way they look, the feel, the smell, the emotions they evoke. Some are outrageously expensive, yes, and I cannot really justify their cost singularly. However, I cannot also fathom their value because how can one value emotion? I buy them, some at many thousands of dollars, to use them, look at them, feel them, smell them, and derive certain contentment and satisfaction from having them. Yet, I consider that I don't spend the equivalent on a car - I don't care for automobiles; I don't indulge in mind/body altering substances and procedures (alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, soda, cosmetic procedures, etc; I do not spend the national average on entertainment (I do not want network nor cable TV in my home); I do not purchase nor care for trinkets, jewelry, trendy fashion. Therefore, from a fiduciary perspective, I judge that the cost of a bag vis a vis the cost of all other frivolity, I'm still within reasonable limits.
I have a question relating to this thread. I am a newbie and cannot begin a thread yet. What I want to know is IF you knew no one would recognize your bag as VERY expensive or even know the brand if you told them, would you still pay those prices?
You: This is very important in my trying to anaylize this phenomena.
Me: May I ask why is that?
You:I have looked at bag collections proud owners are showing us and I know there are thousands of dollars represented there. Yet I think, those are the ugliest bunch of bags!
Me: Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
You:I ( and you possibly) will say, "it's about how they make me feel". Yes but WHY do they make us feel that way?
Me: Hhmmmnnn...interesting....but I do think buying and expensive bag is not so different from buying an expensive entertainment showcase or a really snazzy car, or a beautiful watch, or a really nice dress....it is all relative. If one has the money to burn, then why not? Why not ask a guy "why spend thousands" on an expensive car?
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I totally get why people feel guilty if it's not really not a bag they want but something else undefinable for them, a lifestyle, a fantasy, a perfect world, to be loved etc. it's just such a relief to hear that sometimes, for some people it's 'just' the bag, but in a way that totally elevates the bag from the mundane into a fabulous, amazingly made thing of beauty one can actually own.
A lot of what we are talking about here is classic addiction and a lot of the excuses sound very close to addicts' excuses. I may be in denial but I do it in style...
I agreed with the following points
-vanity
-people spending more than they can afford (at $30 or $30,000)
-handbags don't make you happy
-the habit is addictive
-justification of quality n price
-it's a status symbol, ridiculous idea, maybe, but people think it.
But no matter what u r willing to admit to the reason u r willing to spend on a bag.
U know deep down... it isn't going to make u Kim kardashion or nicole rochie if u carry a Bal or Hermes.
(in fact, I was a little turned off from Bal in the beginning because off all the-socialites)
It isn't going to make u thin or successful or rich. It could actually make u the exact opposite.
OMG thank you for the insight!!! This is what I am looking (was hoping) for. You have hit the nail on the head for me I believe. It IS NOT THE BAG!! It is something else I am looking for!!! And I know why my bag obsession escalated so violently about 18 months ago. I lost a beloved pet of 18 years. I have been suffering every since. Not dealing with the loss or the grief well. It was right after that I bought my first Prada and the insanity just escalated!! I have been trying to ease this lost feeling, this emptiness, this pain by momentary bag highs! I can't believe I haven't made the connection myself. Now I know!! What a relief. Now I see I must get counseling. God bless you, you were sent to me by an angel.![]()
Love that last line LOL. Yes it is the addiction I am concerned with. As I have recognized that is what I am dealing with. Those of you who seek out a truly needed bag and pay whatever outrageous amount, then happily carry that bag for a long time are not in the class with an addict like me! I soooo envy you, because you are satisfied. I never am! And no matter the price or quality it goes the same. After carrying a FEW times, or in cases only once, the thrill is gone and I must have another "fix". It is totally an addiction and you have great insight to recognize that. I don't get the same satisfaction the sane ones of you do. And that is what I so desperately want! So I kid myself and say "oh this one is it! This will satisfy me." Just this one more!![]()
.I am very pleased if anything I have said has helped you and I am sorry for your loss of your darling pet who must have meant the world to you (what a lucky pet to have had someone like you lifelong).
I see you found the ban support thread in this forum where there are others who have a similarly hard time stopping their shopping compulsions. I haven't read it all but there are obviously people there who are not being satistfied by buying more and more bags, a few of those threads touched my heart as your post does. Perhaps you could see if there is a similar support group in the Animalicious! sub-forum for grieving pet-owners, if not maybe start one. Actually, compulsive behaviour and displacement activity is a very common thing after a bereavement whether it's for a human or beloved pet. When my darling dog died I couldn't even look at his picture and it has taken me a long time to get over the naughtiest little rascal ever createdsomeways I didn't want to get out of bed - it was too quiet for one thing.
I for one, don't find others collections ugly, I find what others collect and find beautiful very interesting even if their taste is far from my own. Perhaps, the 'ugliness' that you feel looking at a collection amassed beyond logical reasoning a reminder of your own over-large accumulation. I can understand people
buying bags that they love, even too many. For me the questions start to surface when I see that people have sold bags that they were gushing about only months or weeks ago, And often not once or twice but hundreds of times.
If that were me I would be seeking proffesipnal help (or open a shop).Clothes, bags, shoes etc are part of my expression and how I face life, ever since I was little it has been my passion but I know what I like, and I like what I have, sometimes it's not until it's mine that I really love it.
I wish you love and luck and the knowledge that bags are many things but they can't lick your face. Please be gentle with yourself and forgive yourself what is NOT the most terrible crime![]()