What do y'all think about the Balenciaga SS23 & Adidas collab "teddy" controversy?

What's your take in the Balenciaga teddy bear controversay?

  • It's harmless

    Votes: 23 3.2%
  • It's disgusting

    Votes: 554 76.7%
  • It's just to garner attention - Balenciaga being Balenciaga

    Votes: 94 13.0%
  • I don't know what to think

    Votes: 46 6.4%
  • What controversay? (links in post)

    Votes: 5 0.7%

  • Total voters
    722

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Please let me know I’m not feeling alone here, but since all of this horrible mess I’ve been purposefully not using any of my balenciaga bags. I have bags, hats, shoes (haven’t worn B shoes in years).

I’m definitely not throwing out, destroying, or getting rid of anything because I love my bags. I’ve been a fan of the brand since I was in elementary school and dreamed of owning a city bag.

But not sure how long I can wait out on using any of my bags because they are some of my favorites in my collection.

Luckily for me, never been a fan of the huge logo bags. I do have a mini city with the logo strap but I can just put the logo side against my body. But all my others have no logo/name.

Also, side story - I was checking out a Nordstrom rack recently (I was using a givenchy bag) and the cashier asked me if I heard about the balenciaga controversy and I told her yes and basically left it at that. She said she was going to be throwing away her balenciaga sunglasses and asked me if I wanted them(weird lol and I said no thank you).
I have one pair of their sock shoes i dont want to wear anymore especially with the name hmmm maybe i can spray paint red xxx on it and make it no name hmmm
 
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I've already posted a couple soliloquies on this subject a couple pages back so I wont subject the readers to another but..

If you love your bags, wear them & enjoy them, I have been and plan to continue. Your bags had nothing to do with this disgusting direction Bal has taken. Personally, I wont be buying anything from Bal in the future, that's how a boycott works. We punish the offender by not purchasing their products, we don't punish ourselves retroactively.

If anyone dares judge or confront you, my response would be: clean your own house first. There have been so many controversies through the years, every household is bound to have a few products from companies with something in their history. I believe the majority of Bal owners (and I am, I have around 100 pieces in my collection) are outraged & disgusted by this but we shouldn't punish ourselves or each other for what they did. Bal needs to pay the price for this NOT us.

Do what makes YOU happy. Life is seriously too short to punish yourself for the sins of others.
Very well put and great perspective.
Thank you!
 
I personally do appreciate that Balenciaga was bold enough to take a chance with this campaign showing their evil. Just think if they just continued to keep it quiet? They say it's a mistake. Mistake? How, when there is no way will you just allow "anyone" Balanciaga to just take over your brand without you seeing what was being done. The lady that looked like she was covered in blood holding 2 bloody babies...what was the purpose of that? It's evil. The children with the bears, staged to pose a certain way, staged to have a certain look on their faces was done to serve a purpose. The mispelling in Balenciaga to be BAALenciaga was not a mispelling, it was spelled correctly for their purpose. The subliminal messages in the campaign were to serve a purpose, all purposes I am not about. This was done in our faces in broad daylight so to speak. There is a reason why we are not hearing celebrities using their platform to call Balenciaga out. They are in agreement with this company or they are being controlled by this company, which shows us how much power the people behind Balanciaga has. Not saying anything and remaining quiet IS saying everything you celebrities Thanks for making it crystal clear as now I can make a confident decision NOT to support this company nor people that do. Thanks to both for showing so much transparency. I can now say good bye and I won't be seeing you later
 
Of course it is your choice. My point is the fact that Balenciaga is a long standing fashion house with a successful history. I hate to see it all burned to the ground because current powers that be at Balenciaga made stupid decisions. It is rare for a head designer to last more than a few years, wouldn‘t mind if Demna was gone sooner rather than later.
As horrendous as this all is, I don’t necessarily believe that there will be a long-standing impact on the brand. They’ll replace the creative team, rebrand, all that stuff, and people will continue to buy and others will probably end up buying again down the line, that’s how this always works. I mean people still go to church every Sunday….
 
As horrendous as this all is, I don’t necessarily believe that there will be a long-standing impact on the brand. They’ll replace the creative team, rebrand, all that stuff, and people will continue to buy and others will probably end up buying again down the line, that’s how this always works. I mean people still go to church every Sunday….
I would agree. I was at Woodbury Commons this past weekend and there was a long line outside the Bal store going in. People are still buying their merchandise. My bf who never heard of Balenciaga before saw the Yahoo news and first told me about it. He now knows about the brand, so I guess even bad publicity is still publicity.
 
I think that if I had a Balenciaga bag or a collection of them, which I thankfully do not, I would throw all of them in the trash can after dumping the grease from my Thanksgiving turkey onto them. I am livid about this brand thinking it is okay to do this kind of depraved advertising with hidden symbols of the sexual abuse of children in multiple ads. Disgusting. What an appalling company.
I can certainly understand your feelings about this for sure... I personally won't burn or throw away my items I paid my hard earned cash to buy. But, I won't be wearing them any time soon either.

Balenciaga’s headquarters is in Kering. They share staff too.

So I will be giving up my Balenciaga and Gucci bags and avoiding other Kering brands from now on, but thank god I only have three Gucci bags and one Bal moto (that are going to be sent to the realreal soon after this).

Honestly, this situation has reminded me of the racism of Gucci (the black face sweater??) and how they stood behind their creative director and staff instead of reprimanding and firing them. Not to mention the rumors of racism of the staff at Bottega and YSL too.

Also notice how quiet Kering is right now to avoid blowback affecting their other brands?? They have to problem injecting themselves in when something good is happening to one of their brands. Absolutely Despicable.

I’m side-eyeing any person I see supporting Balenciaga and any other Kering brands.
Wait a minute... I have been tending to other things so I totallly missed the YSL and Bottega racism thing. Considering a whole lot of black luxury influencers were pushing their products in the past year

:sad::hrmm: ..only on balenciaga.com and at the Madison Avenue, New York Balenciaga store immediately following the show... https://www.balenciaga.com/en-us/spring-23
Easy to avoid buying almost ALL of this.... even without the scandal & even if I could afford it.

I adore my moto bags. I mean, truly. But this is so mind boggling. How they could think any of this was even remotely appropriate. It’s bonkers.

I just don’t think I can carry them in good conscience right now.

Also, where are the parents?
I was thinking the. same. Where are the freaking parents

This is not about being edgy or controversial! This is about the sexualization of children. Are our consciousness and ethics so seared that we are incapable of seeing the gravity of this? Do we really think a brand would expose itself to a child sexualization/pedophilia theme for the sake of being relevant or controversial? Think about the thought process that goes behind a plan to actually get court documents on child pornography and place behind a bag. Did you see the paintings of Michael Boressman that was placed behind the model on the desk? He promotes child violence. Guys, wake up
Sexualization of young models have always been the norm in the industry. Models careers normally start in early teens and the bodies are normally very curve-less. This is even before waif was a thing. Designers created clothing where models walked the runway with their aerola and buttocks showing... whilst male models are mostly clothed. It got to a point where it was normalized.
We are no longer immuneto the BS... NEED TO WAKE up and stop supporting this crap. But...I am not throwing away any of my stuff... I just won't be wearing it or talking about it anytime soon.
 
I agree with all but this... for now. I'm willing to give Kering's other brands a pass until we know more. But I'd like a statement from Kering at a minimum, if not their brands.
I am late to reading this thread so maybe others have mentioned this later. But doesn’t Kering group also sell child statues/dolls with very disturbing things on their faces/noses?
 
Yeah the new Gucci campaign with Harry Styles wearing a teddy bear t-shirt and carrying around a children's mattress... Presumably the campaign was shot around the same time as the Balenciaga's campaign, but Gucci had all the time to see the Balenciaga scandal unravel and yet they still decided to run a campaign with a theme like this.

I don't really mind the Gucci campaign since it's just Harry alone, but is this really the kind of attention they had to go seeking right now?
 
I will continue to use my 2 old moto pieces/shoes/couple classic RTW items but I have't liked them since Nicolas Ghesquière left anyway and to me it's about the design and quality, I never paid attention to marketing stunts. That being said I think what they did was ridiculously outrageous, what on earth, so much sensitivity these days with so many topics that make any respectful person want to tread lightly around and then some probably young marketing group thought this was a good idea??? WOW!!! Certainly nail in the coffin for me to even casually walk into the store these days, although the high heel crocks and crock phone case had already turned me off.
 
Also for me, I follow the designers/directors I like for the brands and designs I'm attracted to.... When I read articles like what I quoted below it lends to some of my decision making. I truly have not cared for the brand since he left and his side of the story supports my reasoning as well. I supported him as a designer/creative director and will continue to appreciate and enjoy his pieces I own, I do not feel that is supporting the current Balenciaga brand. Yes he mentions our beloved moto as what the brand wanted to continue to face forward but he's totally right, that was an over 10 year design at that time! Sure keep it as a staple but let him get his creativity out there instead of stifling him as a creative director for the ONE design because it makes them the most money.



"In an candid interview with new publication System, the 42-year-old talks about the reasons behind his shock departure from Balenciaga, which saw Alexander Wang ushered in as his replacement.

“I never had a partner, and I ended up feeling too alone,” Ghesquière admits. “I had a marvellous studio and design team who were close to me, but it started becoming a bureaucracy and gradually became more corporate, until it was no longer even linked to fashion.”

“Everything became an asset for the brand, trying to make it ever more corporate – it was all about branding,” he says. “I began to feel as though I was being sucked dry, like they wanted to steal my identity while trying to homogenise things. It just wasn’t fulfilling anymore.”

The designer confesses that he starting feeling alienated and unhappy when the Balenciaga business team failed to predict which catwalk pieces would sell well, instead going straight for the most easily merchandisable product.

“The strongest pieces that we made for the catwalk got ignored by the business people,” Ghesquière says. “They forgot that in order to get to that easily sellable biker jacket, it had to go via a technically mastered piece that had been shown on the catwalk… There was no esteem, interest, or recognition for the research that I’d done.”

Intriguingly, Ghesquière mentions how he’s not the only designer who feels this way. “What’s interesting is how my split from Balenciaga has encouraged people to get in touch with me,” he notes. “They’ve said, ‘Me too, I’m in the same situation. I want to leave too.'”

Hmmmm… Just who would those designers be? Leave your guesses in the comments."
 
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