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Also, let’s stick closely to topic, it really helps preventing tangents and drama.
Also, let’s stick closely to topic, it really helps preventing tangents and drama.
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What do y'all think about the Balenciaga SS23 & Adidas collab "teddy" controversy?
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This thread isn't about debating the merits of Ralph Rucci's professional career nor his IG account (points that I thoroughly disagree with you on). This doesn't negate the fact that he is one of the only individuals in the fashion industry that has called out Balenciaga/Demna while others have been content to remain silent.
Of course it is your choice. My point is the fact that Balenciaga is a long standing fashion house with a successful history. I hate to see it all burned to the ground because current powers that be at Balenciaga made stupid decisions. It is rare for a head designer to last more than a few years, wouldn‘t mind if Demna was gone sooner rather than later.
Business of Fashion, rescinded its Global Award to have been presented to Balenciaga/Denma (annual gala)
describing the Balenciaga images as "wholly inconsistent with our values"
describing the Balenciaga images as "wholly inconsistent with our values"
I have been thinking about this for over a week and I go back and forth between absolutely nauseated to being in denial.
The denial part of me wants to think: This was a poorly received (and rightfully so) attempt at being edgy and pushing the envelope artistically and that several people made really poor decisions when this campaign was approved. Because there's no way actual criminals committing heinous acts against children would ever be so dumb to so openly advertise their sickness, right?
When the denial slips away, I feel so disgusted and sad because I am forced to think of the terrible way some adults destroy children behind closed doors.
The denial part of me wants to think: This was a poorly received (and rightfully so) attempt at being edgy and pushing the envelope artistically and that several people made really poor decisions when this campaign was approved. Because there's no way actual criminals committing heinous acts against children would ever be so dumb to so openly advertise their sickness, right?
When the denial slips away, I feel so disgusted and sad because I am forced to think of the terrible way some adults destroy children behind closed doors.
I was one of our state’s CSEC (commercial sexual exploitation of children) subject matter experts for years and tbh I’d never heard this stuff about bunnies, spirals, eyes, etc., in my work, ever. Certain pimps/gangs would use certain symbols but there wasn’t much that was looked at as some universal sign of trafficking.
It’s hard for me to decipher how much of this stuff becomes weird conspiracies. I sometimes think trafficking has taken on this weird Hollywood mystique that isn’t really as rooted in reality as it might seem.
Balenciaga has not fired any of their perverts. What? The entire company was in it? Never again anything balenciaga, will not support them unless an entirely new crew comes around. Gross.
My oldest Bal bag is from 2003, my youngest is 2012.
I won't throw out a collection that cost tens of thousands of dollars because I might get judged by some random on the street.
Go ahead, it's not like I'll lose sleep over it.
Agreed… I have a couple of handbags from 2012 and 2015. I don’t wanna get rid of them but I don’t wanna get cancelled for wearing them either
Well, the message to me is that they fully support it. I mean, if this creative director was going in a direction they didn't like, or didn't want associated with their brand, then let him go; let him go develop his own bizarro fashion line and at least cut him from the Kering org. It says so much about Bal and Kering that absolutely no one was fired and the lawsuit was apparently dropped (it was bogus anyway).
I'm not throwing them out or selling them but I probably won't wear them for a while. Simply because it doesn't make me feel happy to look at them or use them at the moment, or maybe ever. They're just going to keep sitting in my closet for now. A couple years from now if I'm still not using them I might get rid of it. All of mine are pre-2012 and don't have the name or logo on the outside, if I had some heavily branded bags I'd probably feel differently. I definitely won't buy anything new from the brand and give them any money.
Idk. I still wear my Alexander Wang Rockie and I think what he (allegedly) did is disgusting and awful. But the bag didn't do those things. At the end of the day it's just a piece of leather and doesn't have motives of its own, good or evil. I'll keep it around until I stop enjoying it, whatever the reason for that is.
I’m with @BPC. My oldest Bal is from 2001 and the most recent one is from 2010... all from Nicholas Ghesquière’s era as Bal creative director. I will not shy away from wearing my cherished Bals and for anybody who will confront me about it, then let’s have it. I am open to dialogue and you can have an opinion as long as you acknowledge that I also have mine.
Right now, I’m actually wearing my Weekender, the biggest moto version. Because my bag didn’t cause this outrage... it was Demna’s blunder of a campaign. I am disappointed that all they can muster is an empty apology from Demna and the Bal CEO.
Satanists believe that you have to be honest about what you're doing.
So, you basically can do what you like ("do as thou wilt"), according to them, as long as you advertise what you plan to do and/or what you're into in advance.
Not only that, but some people are very bad at hiding their perversions and have an impulse to tell other people what they are all the time.
Presumably, they get a kick out of it?
Don't think I can answer without deletion, due to it being off topic, but the bunny thing is referenced in Alice in Wonderland (which has connections with p*dophilia, due to its author being that way inclined) and Hugh Hefner openly called all the women he kind of collected throughout his life "bunny girls", so we know the latter isn't "conspiracy theory", at least.
It really happened, in front of us all.
It was even televised.
The revolution wont be televised...
That said; I've been away from this forum for several years, stopped back in to read about this nightmare. I read this entire thread.. Some of it was informative, some disgusting and some a little bit of a reach.
I own so may Bal pieces I've lost count, most of them in purples. I have jackets, countless bags and wallets, keychains & bracelets the list goes on and ON. My oldest is a 2004 eggplant city, newest is a 2013 ultra violet, of the more than 100 pieces I own NOT ONE of them was purchased directly from Bal.
If I destroy them, throw them out, sell them, whom am I hurting? Not Bal, they already got their money long ago.
I'm only hurting myself, getting rid of an item I love & enjoy that was made & sold LONG before this,, this,, whatever horrific descriptive you want to use.
Retroactive punishment? Is that a thing? Of whom? My 10 yr old bag? Bal has not done anything in the last 7 or 8 yrs that I would buy and now I wouldn't buy even if I had liked it. Their new stuff is trash and now their staff is trash too.
If anyone wants to come at me on the street and confront me or I even hear a whisper, they best be prepared to back it up.
Pedos and those that support or push that agenda should all be covered in razor cuts and dumped in a barrel of lemon juice to start. They forfeit the right to breathe the air the rest of us are breathing. The end.
But an intelligent person can separate the horrors of men (and women) from inanimate objects that existed before the monsters were relevant.
Lastly, I was so very ,VERY sad to read about CeeJay, hers was an opinion on this subject, I was hoping to read.
RIP CeeJay, give em hell..
Store away for now, sell, dump, donate or carry on; this is a personal choice and do NOT let anyone cause you guilt or shame for your choice.
Y'all be good to each other now.. CHEERS
That said; I've been away from this forum for several years, stopped back in to read about this nightmare. I read this entire thread.. Some of it was informative, some disgusting and some a little bit of a reach.
I own so may Bal pieces I've lost count, most of them in purples. I have jackets, countless bags and wallets, keychains & bracelets the list goes on and ON. My oldest is a 2004 eggplant city, newest is a 2013 ultra violet, of the more than 100 pieces I own NOT ONE of them was purchased directly from Bal.
If I destroy them, throw them out, sell them, whom am I hurting? Not Bal, they already got their money long ago.
I'm only hurting myself, getting rid of an item I love & enjoy that was made & sold LONG before this,, this,, whatever horrific descriptive you want to use.
Retroactive punishment? Is that a thing? Of whom? My 10 yr old bag? Bal has not done anything in the last 7 or 8 yrs that I would buy and now I wouldn't buy even if I had liked it. Their new stuff is trash and now their staff is trash too.
If anyone wants to come at me on the street and confront me or I even hear a whisper, they best be prepared to back it up.
Pedos and those that support or push that agenda should all be covered in razor cuts and dumped in a barrel of lemon juice to start. They forfeit the right to breathe the air the rest of us are breathing. The end.
But an intelligent person can separate the horrors of men (and women) from inanimate objects that existed before the monsters were relevant.
Lastly, I was so very ,VERY sad to read about CeeJay, hers was an opinion on this subject, I was hoping to read.
RIP CeeJay, give em hell..
Store away for now, sell, dump, donate or carry on; this is a personal choice and do NOT let anyone cause you guilt or shame for your choice.
Y'all be good to each other now.. CHEERS
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